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Joel Payne Regular Member
Joined: 27 Sep 2009 Posts: 36 Location: Cincinnati Ohio
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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1953 Chicago Benge. Purchased in 1967 when I was 15, stolen my sophomore year at KU. Still haven't found another Bb that plays as well. _________________ Joel Payne |
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blbaumgarn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Jul 2017 Posts: 705
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:22 am Post subject: Horns you wish you'd never sold |
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I feel so sorry for someone having their horn stolen. I regret selling my Benge 5 serial number just a little over 10,000 that I had for 24-or 25 years. Nothing else I ever played was as much fun. I did it in an emotional time after I was divorced. I hope someone else has enjoyed it and treated it well. That's my hope musically anyway. _________________ "There are two sides to a trumpeter's personality,
there is one that lives to lay waste to woodwinds and strings, leaving them lie blue and lifeless along a swath of destruction that is a
trumpeter's fury-then there is the dark side!" Irving Bush |
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Lawler Bb Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2002 Posts: 1140 Location: Milwaukee, WI
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dr_trumpet Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 2533 Location: Cope, IN
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Not that I am enjoying the pain that some of these memories might bring, but the stories of them are both enlightening and a very good source of "food for thought" before selling any horn.... _________________ Dr. Albert L. Lilly, III DM
Artist/Clinician for Vincent Bach Trumpets (Conn-Selmer)
Principal Trumpet, Hendricks Symphony (Avon, IN)
Arranger/Composer; Lilly Music |
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WFUnix Veteran Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 433
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:57 am Post subject: |
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Regrets include:
Bach 37 my parents bought me in 9th grade. First nice trumpet I ever had. Sold it to purchase a Kanstul 1503. Wish I hadn't sold it for sentimental reasons.
Schilke S22C that was a high school graduation present and my first C trumpet. Sold it after finding an admittedly superior Yamaha NY, at least to my ears. Again, wish I hadn't sold it for sentimental reasons.
Kanstul Burbank 5 Star. Loved that horn, especially after Charlie Melk did his magic to it. Sold it because I couldn't justify having 3 Bbs at the time.
Blackburn w/19-348 leadpipe, 213A24S bell, gold plated. Decided I didn't need a trumpet that nice, which while true, is perhaps the dumbest reason I ever sold a horn! Fortunately, I later bought a similar Blackburn except with a lighter 20 gauge bell that plays very well.
It's hard for me, as a hobbyist, to justify keeping many "extra" horns when I have an itch for another one. That has led me to buy and sell horns off and on for many years. Now I'm at a point that I don't plan to sell any horns currently in my stable because I'm at a better place financially and I've learned that I may regret selling later. The next horn purchase will truly be +1. The wife will get over it |
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dershem Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 1887 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: Horns you wish you'd never sold |
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blbaumgarn wrote: | I feel so sorry for someone having their horn stolen. |
Stolen horns is a whole other conversation. _________________ BKA! Mic Gillette was my mentor and friend.
Marcinkiewicz Mic G. trumpet, Custom Marcinkiewicz mpc. (Among others)
Marcinkiewicz Rembrandt flugel, Benge 8Z cornet, King 2B, Bach 36, Benge 190, Getzen 3062... many more. All Marc. mouthpieces. |
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JeffM729 Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 442 Location: Parrish, FL
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Only two......
A beautiful Selmer K-Modified and a killer Selmer Claude Gordon. |
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mark61 Veteran Member
Joined: 28 Feb 2011 Posts: 173
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Calicchio 1s7. Miss it, Just played well !
Mark |
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spitvalve Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Mar 2002 Posts: 2157 Location: Little Elm, TX
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Getzen Eterna Severinsen Bb
Getzen 940 Eterna piccolo
Holton TR-395 Superbone
Only because I needed the money!
I also had a Bach 229H C trumpet but I don't miss it--it was a lemon. _________________ Bryan Fields
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1991 Bach LR180 ML 37S
1999 Getzen Eterna 700S
1979 Getzen Eterna 895S Flugelhorn
1969 Getzen Capri cornet
Eastlake Benge 4PSP piccolo trumpet
Warburton and Stomvi Flex mouthpieces |
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trickg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 5675 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Easy - my Kanstul CCF 925 copper bell flugel. That was a sweet, sweet playing and sounding flugel, and I wish like heck I'd never sold it. _________________ Patrick Gleason
- Jupiter 1600i, ACB 3C, Warburton 4SVW/Titmus RT2
- Brasspire Unicorn C
- ACB Doubler
"95% of the average 'weekend warrior's' problems will be solved by an additional 30 minutes of insightful practice." - PLP |
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DickieG64 Veteran Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 114 Location: Weehawken, New Jersey
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:28 am Post subject: |
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Calicchio 1S2 Large bore #3007 _________________ Chicago Benge Large bore 1947
Monette B993
Taylor Flugelhorn
Kanstul -Charlie Davis pic prototype never produced
Conn 80A Cornet
Taylor Flugle Horn
Kanstul-Charlie Davis Prototype Piccolo-never produced
1946 Conn 80A cornet |
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FrenchPlayer New Member
Joined: 13 Sep 2018 Posts: 5 Location: Paris
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:07 am Post subject: |
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My first Bach 37/25, lacquered...just amazing for my use. All standard.
Bought several instrument of the same model and all were less interesting. |
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Manuel de los Campos Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 654 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:40 am Post subject: |
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A silver plated Bach 180-37 bought from a millitairy band professional. The horn was beated up, leaky valves but still outplayed my raw brass 180-37
I sold it for a reasonable price and for the money I bought a 6310Z which I never liked
(The yamaha I sold for a Conn 22B 'Victor' and that horn I played for years, a very good horn!) _________________ Technology alone is a poor substitute for experience. (Richard Sachs) |
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richardwy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 4308 Location: Casper, WY - The Gotham of the Prarie
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:24 am Post subject: |
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In no particular order,
1) Geten 3850 cornet
2) Yamaha 9445 CHS Bb
3) Chicago Benge C
4) Bach 189 D/Eb
Sigh . . . |
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Ozzbo Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Feb 2011 Posts: 137 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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A great playing Benge 90B !!!! This horn could do anything, but I traded it in for an average playing Schilke S32. |
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veery715 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 4313 Location: Ithaca NY
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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A Selmer Sigma which, when I sold it, made me a good $ since I bought it when they were being discontinued and got it at a super price. Still, it played better than any other trumpet I have owned. Try to buy one now!
A Blackburn cornet which had a glorious sound. _________________ veery715
Hear me sing!: https://youtu.be/vtJ14MV64WY
Playing trumpet - the healthy way to blow your brains out. |
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yourbrass Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 3630 Location: Pacifica, CA, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Back in the 90's I would pick up used Bachs, rebuild them and resell them to help pay the bills. That was before the huge price increase to what they command today. There was one particular 37ML that I re-did that just played like a dream. I even got compliments from another orchestra member after a solo I played one night. But, I needed money, as others have said. I would have kept it if I could have and the fact that I remember this particular horn is weird for me - I've had dozens of trumpets over the years - and many good ones!
-Lionel _________________ "Strive for tone." -John Coppola
Edwards X-13
ACB MV3C /ACB A1/26 backbore
https://yourbrass.com/ |
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nieuwguyski Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Posts: 2347 Location: Santa Cruz County, CA
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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A late '70s Selmer K-Modified 24B. By the time I bought it in the late '80s it had leprous lacquer and acid bleed around the kranz, but the valves were amazing, the intonation was great, and it had a nice mellow/compact sound. But by the early '90s I was playing in rock bands and couldn't imagine keeping a trumpet that didn't strike me as loud and bright.
The list of trumpets I kick myself for not buying is longer. _________________ J. Notso Nieuwguyski |
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jcathey Regular Member
Joined: 21 May 2009 Posts: 68
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:53 am Post subject: |
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dershem wrote: | Martin/Akright Mic Gillette monster horn. .470 bore, 6" bell, 3d valve trigger. Big, warm, open sound and feel (though it could really light up when needed). |
I can only imagine. I love mine, and the level of regret I know I'd have were it ever to depart would be staggering. I have yet to find anything that plays like it, and the last one I heard of for sale was years ago. I currently have two, arguably the first- and last-made of the series. (I heard that there were 48.) Mic's first custom horn, using that bell on a Benge, my daily driver, and one from the regular series that was destroyed in a house fire, but rebuilt by Dick last year using the carcass and Mic's souvenir bell from his mantle. (My brother's, should he ever pay me back for the rebuild.)
On-topic, I have only actually managed to sell a few horns, all with zero regrets. (Not a keeper in the bunch. Getzen nickel cornet, Renault/Couesnon C, Conn 14A cornet, Cleveland trumpet, ART cornet, and a hateful Olds marching baritone. OK, the C wasn't half bad, at chamber volumes, but didn't like getting loud.) I have more that I should sell, but... |
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tptva004 Regular Member
Joined: 23 Sep 2018 Posts: 23
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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kanstul 991.... traded it for a bach 38/7. bach was nice but i miss the 991 |
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