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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:36 am    Post subject: Playing With Bounce Reply with quote

Do you try to make your notes bounce? What players do you listen to that are able to bring this quality to their playing?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Jim,

Are you talking in terms of classical or jazz players? Or does it matter? I'm trying to narrow this a bit.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both. As I understand it bounce is a technique that employs a type of attack and release that results in a lighter, rounder sound. Some have said Clifford Brown has that sound. Iā€™m trying to understand it better.

BTW, it as nothing to do with Bounce Music which I believe is a style of hip hop.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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Reinhold talks very briefly here. Go to 1:00.

It has to do exactly with what you mentioned: the attack and the release. But I would almost say its all more the release than the attack. The attack is only 5% of that equation. When you release the air make sure your tongue doesn't go too far back and it stays relatively forward in your mouth. The beginning of the note should be the "loudest" part of your note and then there is a natural decay. Exactly like a piano. This doesn't not mean you need to play short!

It's a journey. Good luck!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This web article by Dan Adler has a lot of good info with links to examples. http://danadler.com/articles/b/Bounce.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try to teach "bounce" to all my students.. like saying the word "boom" over and over.. the note starts cleanly then decays in a natural way with a lift or vowel ending (not stopping tones with the tongue) Like bouncing a ball in a gymnasium.
Space between the notes depends upon the speed - an approach from playing Baroque music: in 4/4 time, bounce (with lift) the 1/8th notes and with a clean attack, play to full value all of the other values.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVLtGpdo77k
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a fan of using string players as models.


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