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Auraix Regular Member
Joined: 25 Sep 2018 Posts: 28
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:10 am Post subject: Trumpet problems |
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I am currently a senior in high school. I play lead in my schools marching band and up until a few weeks ago, I was playing fine. Recently though my chops have been aching a lot and I'm not sure what I should do to fix it.
Because of this aching I've found it harder to play my normal range and in my convert band, I've just been moved up to 1st part, which I really felt. I used to be able to play high Eb's consistently, but now I have a hard time playing high C's. My endurance has also gone down by a large amount and after half a minute of playing, I hear noticeable changes in my tone
What should I do to fix this? I've tried taking it down an octave, but it doesn't seen to work. I use a system blue mouthpiece 1, is that what if is? Or is it possibly something else? |
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ohnecael Regular Member
Joined: 16 Mar 2018 Posts: 75 Location: Fort Wayne IN
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:06 am Post subject: |
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If ive learned anything after a marching band pratice is you NEED TO WARM DOWN espically after a long rehearsal of playing a ton. just start on a concert F at a mezzo forte and work you way down in half steps.
I.E start on your G slur down to F# slur back up to G and just work your way down always sluring back up to G till you hit pedal C and just flap it out.
A lot of drum corps use this warm down after rehearsals and our Tech from phantom stresses warming down a ton. |
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Christian K. Peters Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Nov 2001 Posts: 1531 Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:55 am Post subject: Trumpet problems |
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Hello A,
Welcome to the Herald. You described what I experienced in HS and college. Trying to play big and loud all the time is not good for the chops. I found myself fatigues and that because of the volume, I let my aperture get too open...To the extent It was that way all the time. The warm down, like mentioned is important, as is the the idea of conservation. When you have a few minutes warmup, maybe soft, centered bends and Clarke type stuff. Get those lips back to a smaller aperture. Efficiency and projection should be the goal. Mouthpiece choice should not be extreme. That will just negatively effect your tone. _________________ Christian K. Peters
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Sharkbaitboi Veteran Member
Joined: 30 Aug 2018 Posts: 104 Location: Antarctica Symphony
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Tbh, I tried to play as little as I could in marching band. Wasn’t a good use of chops |
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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 1518 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:33 am Post subject: |
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In my experience, it is possible to do damage to your chops by playing too loud, too hard, too much. They will get better in time if you patiently take care of them. The old saying "rest as much as you play" holds true. Rebuild your chops with gentle long tones and lip slurs. _________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
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Heim Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:38 am Post subject: |
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What you need is rest. Don't try to play every single note. Get the mouthpiece off of your chops when not playing, even a 1 beat rest completely off the lips will help some. If your chops feel hot, stop playing. Let the swelling go down. Email me if you would like a sample of a product that would help with tired and swollen chops. |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8914 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like you need to rest. Since you can't avoid playing, you need to find ways to reduce your performance intensity for a while. Once you've recovered some then you'd do well with some targeted practice room work where you work on refining your chops: quiet playing, some light flexibilities, only playing high at modest volume, maybe some bending exercises. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
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John Mohan Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Nov 2001 Posts: 9830 Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:26 am Post subject: |
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You've overdone it. Try to get a full day or two off the horn and then when you resume, take it easy. When practicing on your own ALWAYS rest as much as you play between exercises. Break your practicing into 2 or 3 twenty minutes sessions spaced through the day.
When playing in band, get the horn off hour mouth every few phrases (unless you are the only one playing the part). Work with your colleagues and plan where each takes a little break in the music.
As my teacher Claude Gordon used to say, "It's your choice - you can be the hero of the high school band now, or a Player later."
Best wishes,
John Mohan
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giakara Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Great advises above my 2 cents, start your warmup (specially after a hard day ) with wisper long tones(with soft breath attack) for 15 to 30 minutes , after that continue with your normal routine.
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dstdenis Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Rest and recover. As you regain strength, do a better job of pacing yourself to manage your resources so you won't wear yourself down again. _________________ Bb Yamaha Xeno 8335IIS
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