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loweredsixth Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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This thread has some great information to ponder. I'm sure, like everything else in life, the reason why the big bands "died" is complicated...probably all of the reasons stated here.
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area51recording Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:58 am Post subject: |
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"big band" to me is more of a blanket term any more....The big bands of the 30's and 40's played mainly for dance type functions, so when that style of dance lost favor, that was that for them. If you're talking Kenton, Maynard, Buddy, etc. you're talking about listening to the music in a concert setting, and even though it's less common you can still find it, stuff like LCJO etc.....in this case the scarcity of such bands, like a lot of stuff in our society, probably boils down to $$$$, the cost of keeping 17-18 guys working, paying for arrangers...It's tough enough to keep a jazz quartet employed these days.... |
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adagiotrumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:21 am Post subject: |
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area51recording wrote: | "big band" to me is more of a blanket term any more....The big bands of the 30's and 40's played mainly for dance type functions, so when that style of dance lost favor, that was that for them. If you're talking Kenton, Maynard, Buddy, etc. you're talking about listening to the music in a concert setting, and even though it's less common you can still find it, stuff like LCJO etc.....in this case the scarcity of such bands, like a lot of stuff in our society, probably boils down to $$$$, the cost of keeping 17-18 guys working, paying for arrangers...It's tough enough to keep a jazz quartet employed these days.... |
Excellent assessment. As a product of all the above mentioned "permutations" of big bands, I whole-heartedly agree. And as previously state, big bands are not yet DOA. |
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king leopardi Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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In the US during WW2, there was a 20 percent cabaret tax on music played for dancing (from what I understand, however, that did not apply to music being played in a club for listening, which helped the smaller jazz combos). Not only would that be an economic blow for a bandleader, but it would be bad for anyone who owned a ballroom.
Factor in wartime tire and gas shortages, which would have made it harder to take a band on a long tour, especially a 17 piece band on a bus.
This, and the inevitable change in popular tastes, are what I've always thought were the causes of the loss in popularity for the big bands. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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