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Eli
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 Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:37 am Post subject: Pocket Trumpets |
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Hey guys, first time poster.
I am looking for a pocket trumpet to carry around on my way to work and on vacations.
I am willing to spend about $1500 for a new horn.
My main choices are the Carol Brass CPT-3000 and the Brasspire P7.
I would appreciate any input on those two horns and of course suggestions for something else! |
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Welcome to TH!
I have a Kanstul pocket trumpet that is wonderful - in tune, free blowing, big sound. I picked it up used for $1300. I saw one for sale on TH a few weeks ago. Definitely worth the wait.
Good luck!
Jaimie Hall |
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kehaulani
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I had a Carol Pocket Trumpet, taking it and playing it in Europe. Worked well.
Put it in a gig bag and put the bag in my suitcase. Lightened my carry-on load, too. (If you do that, though, I'd have theft insurance on it.)
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Christian K. Peters
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:59 am Post subject: Pocket trumpets |
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Hello all,
Anybody tried the Prelude?
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Tony Scodwell
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:07 am Post subject: Cantabile Pocket trumpet |
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There is a rare Cantabile pocket trumpet on the Marketplace now and it's one of only fifty made. The legendary Mannie Klein owned #8 and this one is #7. Totally handcrafted by a man in his Japanese shop, it blows really well and the collectability value is enormous.
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Eli
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| 1B wrote: | Welcome to TH!
I have a Kanstul pocket trumpet that is wonderful - in tune, free blowing, big sound. I picked it up used for $1300. I saw one for sale on TH a few weeks ago. Definitely worth the wait.
Good luck!
Jaimie Hall |
I will consider it.
How does it compare to the pocket trumpets I have listed?
Thank you!
| kehaulani wrote: | I had a Carol Pocket Trumpet, taking it and playing it in Europe. Worked well.
Put it in a gig bag and put the bag in my suitcase. Lightened my carry-on load, too. (If you do that, though, I'd have theft insurance on it.) |
Have you compared it to other pocket trumpets?
Is it good enough to be played professionally?
Thank you!
| Tony Scodwell wrote: | | There is a rare Cantabile pocket trumpet on the Marketplace now and it's one of only fifty made. The legendary Mannie Klein owned #8 and this one is #7. Totally handcrafted by a man in his Japanese shop, it blows really well and the collectability value is enormous. |
I am mostly interested in a pocket trumpet with a full sized bell so it could fit mutes, and I can't buy this particular one anyway because I don't live in the US and my only method of payment is Paypal
Thank you! |
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giakara
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Hello , if you want a real small pocket try the Carol mini, the smallest pocket in the market , plays great and very fun to hold this little horn.
I'm my opinion the full bell pockets are no real pocket horns but a cornet shape Bb trumpet that will never play as good as real good Bb accept if you pay big money , the pocket horn must be as smaller is possible and as free blowing is also possible , is not a horn for real gigs but a tool that will helps you to keep your chops in shape on vacations etc.
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Eli
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| giakara wrote: | Hello , if you want a real small pocket try the Carol mini, the smallest pocket in the market , plays great and very fun to hold this little horn.
I'm my opinion the full bell pockets are no real pocket horns but a cornet shape Bb trumpet that will never play as good as real good Bb accept if you pay big money , the pocket horn must be as smaller is possible and as free blowing is also possible , is not a horn for real gigs but a tool that will helps you to keep your chops in shape on vacations etc.
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I thought about it, but fitting a full size mute is very important to me.
The full bell trumpets have a small enough case for me to carry, and I might even get a gig bag if that's not enough
I'm still contemplating between the Carol and the Brasspire, leaning more towards the Brasspire |
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giakara
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| Eli wrote: | | giakara wrote: | Hello , if you want a real small pocket try the Carol mini, the smallest pocket in the market , plays great and very fun to hold this little horn.
I'm my opinion the full bell pockets are no real pocket horns but a cornet shape Bb trumpet that will never play as good as real good Bb accept if you pay big money , the pocket horn must be as smaller is possible and as free blowing is also possible , is not a horn for real gigs but a tool that will helps you to keep your chops in shape on vacations etc.
Regards |
I thought about it, but fitting a full size mute is very important to me.
The full bell trumpets have a small enough case for me to carry, and I might even get a gig bag if that's not enough
I'm still contemplating between the Carol and the Brasspire, leaning more towards the Brasspire |
Check this
https://youtu.be/1K8L8lqEJT0
Regards
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TrumpetMD
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Great video. You can't go wrong with either Carol Brass Pocket Trumpet.
I own the regular-sized Carol Brass Pocket Trumpet. It has a full-sized gold brass bell, as well as 1st and 3rd valve slide adjustment rings. I've had mine for 6+ years. I play it regularly at work. I also use it on an occasional gig as a novelty in my jazz trio. It's held up well, except for the case, which lasted only about one year.
The mini is more affordable, and has a nicer case. In addition, the mini has a small-sized regular brass bell, and appears to be a bit awkward to hold (see time 5:40 in the video).
Both pocket trumpets would work well for practice when you're on the road or otherwise don't have access to your regular horn. However, I think the regular-sized pocket trumpet, with it's full-sized bell and better ergonomics, is more trumpet-like.
Mike
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: Pocket Trumpets |
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| Eli wrote: | Hey guys, first time poster.
I am looking for a pocket trumpet to carry around on my way to work and on vacations.
I am willing to spend about $1500 for a new horn.
My main choices are the Carol Brass CPT-3000 and the Brasspire P7.
I would appreciate any input on those two horns and of course suggestions for something else! |
I was EXTREMELY impressed with everything about the Schiller Center-Tone pocket in 2016. I don't know who makes it in China but it is available only thru Jim Laab's.
https://www.jimlaabsmusicstore.com/store/schiller-centertone-pocket-trumpet-c/
-Denny |
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Eli
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I found out today that I have a Brasspire distributor here in Israel.
Price is a bit steep, but I could get it silver plated for $1800, same price for a lacquered one.
Either way if I was to order one from abroad it would be the same with the 17% tax.
The Carol is at a very appealing price point, but I don't know if it's a professional grade pocket, even though I've read a lot of great reviews about it from users here, some saying it is better than an old Benge pocket
Ahh... decisions...
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Eli
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:47 am Post subject: |
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Hi Trent!
I’ve actually sent you a mail earlier today! |
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The Kanstul 905 is essentially the same horn as the Benge pocket trumpet. It uses the #5 bell (Benge 5X) with an undersized rim, but will still fit mutes, normally. As stated, it plays nicely, with a Benge-like openness and sound.
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Ive played the CPT-3000 for about 3yrs now on gigs, more intimate, and mostly with a harmon in - great sound although would struggle if needing to carry over other instruments - i tend to play in more acoustic environment- great valve action - comfortable to hold
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| Bach 20C for maximum sound |
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Eli
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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I think I'll order the Brasspire P7 from Ikebe Gakki.
It's the cheapest option including tax and it's supposedly a reputable store.
Thanks you everyone! |
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Interesting to hear someone mention Ikebe Gakki here. I was just there yesterday. They are definitely a legit place with a lot of nice horns.
Are you in Japan?
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Eli
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| cgaiii wrote: | Interesting to hear someone mention Ikebe Gakki here. I was just there yesterday. They are definitely a legit place with a lot of nice horns.
Are you in Japan? |
Nope, I will be importing from Japan. |
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