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stanton Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 726 Location: Skokie, Illinois
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:19 am Post subject: **TRUMPET** PARTS Stars and Stripes Forever needed |
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I'm looking to see if anyone has the original Sousa TRUMPET parts (not cornet) for Stars and Stripes? There is a cute little 1st and 2nd trumpet fanfare that Sousa wrote for the trio and all the current arrangements seem to have eliminated them (how does one edit Sousa and kill off trumpet parts...???).
If anyone here has access to the TRUMPET parts (original with the fanfare) and could scan them and email them to me I'd appreciate it.
My email is stanton.kramer@gmail.com
Thanks in advance for your help. _________________ Schilke B1, Bach 37, 1969 Getzen Severinsen Eterna
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zaferis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Posts: 2322 Location: Beavercreek, OH
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:25 am Post subject: |
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check your email. it's a terrible copy.. right out of a military band pouch _________________ Freelance Performer/Educator
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stanton Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 726 Location: Skokie, Illinois
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. I'll get a better look at it when I can get to an actual computer. I appreciate it greatly. _________________ Schilke B1, Bach 37, 1969 Getzen Severinsen Eterna
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falado Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 941 Location: Eastern NC
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Stanton, I'm retired from one of the US Navy bands and also played in a couple USMC field bands and know and have played many times the parts you are talking about. Those parts should be on the old stock band arrangements. If you have a military base near you that has a band check with them. I know we did when I was in the 3rd Marine Division Band, but that was on Okinawa. Look up the 2nd Marine Air Wing Band at Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point or the Band at Camp LeJune, NC. They may still have copies of the old arrangements and may be able to share some parts with. Let me know if you don't find any, I may be able to contact some Old Comrads.
Dave _________________ FA LA DO (Ab: V/ii) MUCS, USN (Ret.)
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stanton Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the offer Falado. Zaferis already sent me parts, but I thank you for your offer.
Can anyone offer a logical suggestion why some arrangers would elect to kill off the texture the trumpets provide in the trio? I think ignoring them does such a disservice to Sousa's genius. _________________ Schilke B1, Bach 37, 1969 Getzen Severinsen Eterna
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Richard A Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 722 Location: Rhode Island, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:19 pm Post subject: Different Versions of Stars and Stripes Forever |
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stanton wrote: | Thanks for the offer Falado. Zaferis already sent me parts, but I thank you for your offer.
Can anyone offer a logical suggestion why some arrangers would elect to kill off the texture the trumpets provide in the trio? I think ignoring them does such a disservice to Sousa's genius. |
The John Church Company seems to have published it first, and it came in two version, Standard Band and Symphonic Band. Standard Band version does not have trumpets, the Symphonic Band version does. _________________ Richard Ashmore
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Gandalfe Regular Member
Joined: 03 Mar 2014 Posts: 89 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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I was just trying to find a nice sax quartet version of this song. I ended up transcribing it myself even though there are many version for free out there. What is there about the Sousa version that spoke to you, or is it just about honoring the history? _________________ Microsoft Jumpin' Jive Orchestra ~ Quinn the Eskimo Vintage Horns |
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grassler Regular Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:53 am Post subject: |
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I think Sousa did not write this trumpet part in the original 1896 version; I think when he had to renew his own copyright in the 50's, he added the part. There was a time when copyrights would run out during the composer's lifetime, and they would write a slightly different version for sale, and try to kill off sales of the older version; Stravinsky's "Petrushka" is an example of this |
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