Best new Jazz Mouthpiece?

[ryanmuckenfuss]

As a mainly marching and concert player looking to get more into jazz any recommendations? My current collection consists of: Bach 3c, Bach 1.5c, King/System Blue KTP 1 (Blue Devils), Yamaha Bobby Shew, Yamaha 14C4

I am also toying with the idea of maybe opening up the bore on the KTP1 to make it a very dark mouthpiece.
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[TKSop]

Jazz is largely what you make it... or who you're trying to imitate.

Any of those should do the job fine - take your pick and stick with it.

[kehaulani]

[O00Joe]

If you're looking for a particularly "dark" sound, try a Bach 6B, one of the mouthpieces used by Chet Baker I believe. I've seen many people say this mouthpiece plays very, and sometimes too, "dark" for them. Personally I use a Vincent Bach Corp. 6BM which is the same with a 26 throat and 24 backbore for orchestral stuff on my Bb. I would say that it's more like a deep C-style cup instead of the V shape found in other Bach B cups.

If you like that breathy, raspy sound, large throats (24+) mixed with large backbores will help get that sound. Shallow mouthpieces do that too but only in the middle and low registers in my experience. Technique wise, open the aperture up and that'll diffuse the sound.
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[ryanmuckenfuss]

[ryanmuckenfuss]

[HERMOKIWI]

You can play jazz on any mouthpiece. There really is no universally accepted "best jazz mouthpiece." That being said, I'm assuming that your objective is to identify the mouthpiece on which you can produce your conception of the "best" jazz sound.

Of course there have been many great jazz artists and they have produced a wide range of sounds. So, there's no universally accepted "best jazz sound." It just depends on whose sound you admire and want to emulate combined with the extent of your physiology, approach and skill in terms of being able to produce that sound.

For example, none of the "Shew" mouthpieces will automatically make you sound like Bobby Shew. In fact, you may sound dramatically different than Bobby Shew on the "Shew" mouthpieces. Reproducing someone's sound is not as easy as choosing the same mouthpiece someone else plays.

It can take a lot of experimentation to choose a mouthpiece that really does move you closer to the sound you want. Certainly, one of the critical aspects of this is to understand what sound you want. That can be quite a project in and of itself. The next critical aspect is to understand how changes in a mouthpiece affect your sound. There are trumpet players who keep psychiatrists in business trying to figure all this out.

I really think Miles Davis had it right when he said, "Man, sometimes it takes you a long time to sound like yourself." In other words, players have a tendency to spend time trying to sound like someone else instead of developing their own natural sound.

Sound quality is very subjective. Some people prefer "bright." Some people prefer "dark." Which sound is better? The answer is "Either can be better depending on your subjective preference." Just like with vocalists, almost anything in terms of sound can work well if done well.
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[giakara]

For me the the Purviance 5*4 is the best for small jazz combo , it gives nice fat and dark sound without killing your chops.

Regards
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[oxleyk]

psst...it's not the mouthpiece

[ryanmuckenfuss]

Thank you for the replies i actually opened up my KTP1's bore and it has a wonderful dark sound.
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[BraeGrimes]

Whichever makes you practice more...

But, if that fails, spend as much as you can and then a little more so that you can't afford to buy another mouthpiece and that'll force you to play that one.

[kehaulani]

[trumpaholic]

AR Resonance MC 40 - 7 does it for me! The 21 throat actually increased my range while providing a dark jazz timbre.
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[ryanmuckenfuss]

[Brent]

What type of jazz are you going to play?

If you're trying to do the bebop thing, I would focus on which mouthpiece is the most responsive, and helps play in all the registers. For me, having too open of a back bore, or too deep of a cup, just hinders my endurance, and makes it too hard after a while.

Brent
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[Bloo42]

Usually you'll want a mouthpiece that screams things like "Wow!" or "Wooh!" when you're playing, but anything that smells jazzy enough should do the job.

[iiipopes]

For me and my breath support not being what it used to be, I play a similar repertoire in community ensembles. I use a 3C with a custom #76 backbore. It is tighter than the stock #10 backbore to help with breath control, but not so tight as the backbore on the Yammy Sew Jazz that makes me feel like I am "pushing" the mouthpiece and encountering intonation issues.
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