Flugelhorn F Besson / Couesnon

[Kubelik81]

Hi.
It's my first time in the forum.
I need help.
Does anyone know this type of horn? In the bell has both F Besson Brevete and Couesnon stamped ???
The horn has the shape of Couesnon with the letter B stamped on the second valve .. but does not have a serial number on any part of the horn?
Could it be a fake ?????
I hope you can help me with this.
Thank you!
Regards

PS I'm not good at English
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39F.Besson Breveté
46Blessing Super Artist
50Martin Committee#2
56Olds Super
56Flugelhorn Martin Imperial#3
57Selmer Deposé 23A
58Bach Mercedes Mt Vernon
62Cornet Martin Committee#2
63Selmer k-Mod 24B Lightweight
69Flugelhorn Selmer K-Mod

[Evinerate]

I would love to see pictures of that horn, did you mean that the bell has both F. Besson and Couenson stamped on it or just Couenson "Brevette"?

[Kubelik81]

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I can not attach the photograph : ((
Breveté
SGDG
F. Besson
París

Couesnon
Paris
Made in France
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39F.Besson Breveté
46Blessing Super Artist
50Martin Committee#2
56Olds Super
56Flugelhorn Martin Imperial#3
57Selmer Deposé 23A
58Bach Mercedes Mt Vernon
62Cornet Martin Committee#2
63Selmer k-Mod 24B Lightweight
69Flugelhorn Selmer K-Mod

[Flugelnut]

Once upon a time (1950-1960) Couesnon acquired, or merged with F. Besson..They were neighbors in the Rue dAngouleme in Paris anyway.
I owned a 1960"s F. Besson Artist flugel once and it was a spitting image of the Couesnon Monopole. It also played at least as well.
Your horn may well be from that transition period.

[Kubelik81]

Thank you very much for the information )
Do you know where you can have the serial number? I can not find it in the horn: ((
What makes me think if it can be a copy
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39F.Besson Breveté
46Blessing Super Artist
50Martin Committee#2
56Olds Super
56Flugelhorn Martin Imperial#3
57Selmer Deposé 23A
58Bach Mercedes Mt Vernon
62Cornet Martin Committee#2
63Selmer k-Mod 24B Lightweight
69Flugelhorn Selmer K-Mod

[Flugelnut]

My Besson had no serial number.
The only markings were (as far as I recall, and apart from the bell markings) a capital "A" on the mouthpiece receiver, a "B" on the bell side of the second valve housing, and the rather usual 1, 2, and 3 marks on the valve housings.
It was nickel plated. The bottom-sprung valves were also nickel. spotless and very slick.
Hope this helps.

[Flugelnut]

PS: at present I play a 1982 Kanstul Besson Brevete, and I rather hate to admit that this is a superior instrument.
If you can get one of those, grab it.

[Kubelik81]

Thank you very much for your help!
)
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39F.Besson Breveté
46Blessing Super Artist
50Martin Committee#2
56Olds Super
56Flugelhorn Martin Imperial#3
57Selmer Deposé 23A
58Bach Mercedes Mt Vernon
62Cornet Martin Committee#2
63Selmer k-Mod 24B Lightweight
69Flugelhorn Selmer K-Mod