Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 1518 Location: Vancouver, BC
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:55 pm Post subject: Double Buzz Survey
Hello Everyone,
I've put together an online survey for people who have experienced and cured, or are currently experiencing double buzz. There is a such a myriad of causes and cures, I thought it would be good to put some statistics together on it for the benefit of all who need help with this.
Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 1518 Location: Vancouver, BC
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:01 pm Post subject:
I'd like to encourage any sufferers of double buzz to take this survey. Later this weekend, when Google Drive isn't mixing up my files, I'll post excerpts from the 8 responses received so far.
Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 1518 Location: Vancouver, BC
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:21 am Post subject:
I came across this article in Jazz Times about chop issues. Brad Goode features in it prominently. It addresses what I'm going through. I've already pm'd Brad.
Joined: 03 Dec 2018 Posts: 371 Location: Port Jackson, NY
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:55 pm Post subject:
I wasn't exactly sure what 'Double Buzz' was and found this video, which I'm sure most of you have seen, but I'll stick it in here for others who might not know what 'DB' is.
I've experienced double buzz many times in the past and it was when I was totally exhausted. After I would rest up it would disappear.
I wasn't exactly sure what 'Double Buzz' was and found this video, which I'm sure most of you have seen, but I'll stick it in here for others who might not know what 'DB' is.
I've experienced double buzz many times in the past and it was when I was totally exhausted. After I would rest up it would disappear.
Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 1518 Location: Vancouver, BC
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 12:48 pm Post subject:
There are now 52 responses to the survey. You can access the results at https://goo.gl/UM7Yjd _________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
Bach 7C mouthpiece
Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 1518 Location: Vancouver, BC
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 3:05 pm Post subject:
I have an update on my own buzz. What finally worked for me was returning to the strengthening exercises I had been given long ago, but was no longer doing completely, or consistently. Two octaves of long tones, starting at G in the middle of the staff then up a step, then down a step from the G, then up 2 steps, then down 2 steps, until the last two tones are lowest G and G atop the staff. Most important is an air attack, start pp and increase to ff or fff, then back down to pp until running out of air. Getting loud is not for learning to play loud, but rather to strengthen the lips, like lifting a heavier weight. Then lip slurs. the first few are simple and progress chromatically down through all the fingerings. Then some slurs that go one interval higher each time. The first tops out at G above the staff, and the 5th one is the same pattern but ascends to E above the staff. I do this every day and it has mostly subdued the buzz. There was marked improvement after 2 weeks. It's tiring, so if you're working on a part you need to perform, work on that part first and do these long tones and slurs after you've worked on your performance practicing. My chops have gotten much stronger, and in addition to kicking the buzz out of the buzz, I have less tendency for one side of my embouchure to weaken and leak when tired or strained. It's just good old fashioned strength training. I'll work on publishing these exercises. I credit my late teacher, Merle Coady. _________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
Bach 7C mouthpiece
Joined: 31 Dec 2015 Posts: 900 Location: Bay Area, California
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:58 pm Post subject:
Double buzz for me only happens if I am playing extremely loud, in gig situations where I'm having a hard time hearing myself, so my aperture is wide open and I'm blowing my face off.
I went through a patch of that annoying double buzz when I would start up in the morning. It lasted for about 4 months. Everytime it happened, I would stop and reset which seemed to fix it. It eventually went away. Hope that helps.
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