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50YrComeback
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:25 pm    Post subject: Rest-Strategies Reply with quote

"rest as much as you play" -

I would like to opinions on what this means to folks - Particularly for those of us trying to get back in playing shape and re-learning. Even my teacher has said this to me and a little vague on how to do this (go get the mail, watch TV). Does this mean you play 10 min, rest 10 min? Or play 30 min, rest 30?
Do you play til your lip feels a bit tired, rest for some interval? I am guessing its kind of an individual thing but curious as to what folks are doing or were taught.

I play for 10-15 min with small breaks after which the lips start to tire a little bit, then take a few minutes minutes doing something else like putting golf balls on my practice putting green. I think my putting is improving faster than my playing. Comments?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, it means to rest a bit between each individual piece of a practice session. I'll work on an exercise, or etude for several minutes, and just rest and make 'horse noises' (the international brass player recognition greeting), or some easy pedal note lip flapping for a few minutes.
Basically enough rest so my sound and articulation is good for the next piece.

When I can't get the desired sound to start the next part of the session, then I'll some a take a longer rest before beginning again.

I think that a major part of improving is to demand good sound, and clean note-to-note transitions during practice. Basically, the 'right note' with the 'right sound' at the 'right time'.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Several shorter sessions a day is better than one long session. Herseth taught three times a day no more than 45 minutes each.

Within a session, if you take time to sing phrases (in tune) and record yourself and listen back critically (to your playing, not your singing unless you're a better singer than me), your rest time should be pretty much built in.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rest for however long as you physically play a line or exercise, i.e. if the exercise is 4 measures then you rest for 4 measures. This can be accomplished by singing the next line (as previously mentioned) or setting your metronome or tapping your foot and counting it out. The natural tendency is to shorten the rest. Resist the urge.

Another important aspect of the rest period is to ensure you remove the horn from your lips. This allows blood to flow back in to the lips and will help keep you fresh.

Also head the advice of Herbert Clarke and stop playing before your lips start to get tired. Practicing while your lips are tired can lead to development of bad habits.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When practicing, I play and rest in short bursts: play a few lines, rest, repeat. While doing this, I often go back and play a segment again maybe 2 or 3 times to improve it. When I'm finished with an exercise or piece, I rest again for a minute or two.

This pattern kinda/sorta matches the playing patterns I experience with bands in rehearsals and performances. Most pieces are arranged so the trumpet part plays a little, rests a little, etc., then we have a brief break between pieces.

If I'm starting to feel tired, I stop right away and rest. If I'm still tired after resting, then I end my practice session. I've found this is the best way for me to develop accuracy and maintain strength without grinding down my chops.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dstdenis wrote:
When practicing, I play and rest in short bursts: play a few lines, rest, repeat. While doing this, I often go back and play a segment again maybe 2 or 3 times to improve it. When I'm finished with an exercise or piece, I rest again for a minute or two.

This pattern kinda/sorta matches the playing patterns I experience with bands in rehearsals and performances. Most pieces are arranged so the trumpet part plays a little, rests a little, etc., then we have a brief break between pieces.

If I'm starting to feel tired, I stop right away and rest. If I'm still tired after resting, then I end my practice session. I've found this is the best way for me to develop accuracy and maintain strength without grinding down my chops.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:11 am    Post subject: Rest-Strategies Reply with quote

Thanks for the thoughts on the subject - Good ideas.

GaryF
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Way to go Gary!! I thought my 40 yr layoff was long... I feel like a 'spring chicken' now!! Haha!

I'm having my own issues regarding this resting thing... I've been having WAY more fun this time around and finding it difficult to put the horn down until I'm completely spent! Never was very smart!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:54 am    Post subject: Rest-Strategies Reply with quote

good luck on your comeback. RE: rest - Despite knowing you should do it, its hard to put it down. As a younger player, I don't recall anybody ever saying "rest as much as you play" but I was always ready to stop and do something besides practice anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I play an exercise then rest for the same length as that exercise.

When I get tired overall, I take a longer rest. Simple.
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