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50YrComeback
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:03 pm    Post subject: Spoonful of Sugar Reply with quote

Has anybody put together a “method book” with songs/tunes (etudes for you real teachers & musicians) that more or less emulate traditional methodology in terms of embochure building, articulation and technique, etc. For example, songs like “I’m Getting Sentimental Over You”, “In a Little Spanish Town”, “Chances Are”, “Young at Heart”, “Tenderly” seem to me to incorporate some of the intervals that are pretty standard in the method books. I am OK with slurring everything if necessary, playing them slower or faster, putting holds on certain notes, etc. I am sure there would be recognizable tunes that promote long tones and other techniques. Obviously, it would take somebody that understands the methodology of trumpet playing and learning that would be the best author.

My personal “comeback” goals are to play melodic pop music, American Songbook” type stuff and jazz variations on them. If I ever double or triple tongue again is of zero interest and don’t aspire to be the next Rafael Mendez.

I understand the logical argument that you need to build the foundation and techniques that allow you to play any type of music. However, I would love to play recognizable music in place of exercises, even in chromatic variations (no more than 3 flats or sharps please) that follow the same building/technique progression we are striving for. This is kind of like eating food that is very tasty but also healthy. Since you would be playing songs that you have heard, it might have the added benefit of training the ear and player to dial in the pitch sooner. I think perhaps it would promote more practice and definitely be more entertaining the other people living in the house. Another bonus benefit is you would be playing some music in multiple keys that you might like to continue to play for your own or entertainment of others.

I am 10 weeks in, taking lessons, making good progress with a mixture of exercises and playing. However, I want to spend more of my time playing things I like and less time on the exercise books. I am not proposing a short-cut to the building and re-learning process and I recognize a certain level of ongoing exercise is part of the program. However, I am just looking for a "spoonful of sugar" to make the medicine go down (or vegetables that taste like Ben & Jerry’s). Is that too much to ask???

Is there anything out there along these lines? Any thoughts on the merit of the idea? I doubt that I am the originator of this approach.
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JayKosta
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps the Hal Leonard "Real Jazz Book" for Bb instruments.
It contains a huge number of good 'standards'. And there are other various genre 'fake' and 'real' books available.

I don't think it is a substitute for a true 'method book' for learning all the various fundamentals, but it is a good source of playable and enjoyable music.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suggestion: why not develop your own program that hits these three categories:

1. Basic fundamentals. Work on scales, arpreggios, intervals, articulation, lip flexibilities, finger dexterity, sound production, etc. The usual suspects. I like the Franquin Method, but there are others that I like also: Mitchell, Vizzutti, etc.

2. Pop tunes from a fake book. I like the Hal Leonard Ultimate Fake book, especially tunes from the 20s and 30s that I've never heard of. (They wrote great stuff back then, I think.) But pick a fake book that you like.

3. While playing your fun tunes, listen carefully to discern your most glaring weaknesses. Then, go back to your fundamentals books and find exercises that address these skills. By shoring up your greatest weaknesses, you'll be better able to play the stuff you really want to play.
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Harry Hilgers
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dstdenis wrote:
Suggestion: why not develop your own program that hits these three categories:

1. Basic fundamentals. Work on scales, arpreggios, intervals, articulation, lip flexibilities, finger dexterity, sound production, etc. The usual suspects. I like the Franquin Method, but there are others that I like also: Mitchell, Vizzutti, etc.

2. Pop tunes from a fake book. I like the Hal Leonard Ultimate Fake book, especially tunes from the 20s and 30s that I've never heard of. (They wrote great stuff back then, I think.) But pick a fake book that you like.

3. While playing your fun tunes, listen carefully to discern your most glaring weaknesses. Then, go back to your fundamentals books and find exercises that address these skills. By shoring up your greatest weaknesses, you'll be better able to play the stuff you really want to play.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry Hilgers wrote:
dstdenis wrote:
Suggestion: why not develop your own program that hits these three categories:

1. Basic fundamentals. Work on scales, arpreggios, intervals, articulation, lip flexibilities, finger dexterity, sound production, etc. The usual suspects. I like the Franquin Method, but there are others that I like also: Mitchell, Vizzutti, etc.

2. Pop tunes from a fake book. I like the Hal Leonard Ultimate Fake book, especially tunes from the 20s and 30s that I've never heard of. (They wrote great stuff back then, I think.) But pick a fake book that you like.

3. While playing your fun tunes, listen carefully to discern your most glaring weaknesses. Then, go back to your fundamentals books and find exercises that address these skills. By shoring up your greatest weaknesses, you'll be better able to play the stuff you really want to play.

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Anthony Miller
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use Eric Bolvins Big Songbook and base exercises around that?
https://bolvinmusic.com/product/the-really-big-student-songbook/?v=79cba1185463
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