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Buying a Yamaha 631...trigger or no trigger?


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nieuwguyski
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry Hilgers wrote:
My Kanstul 1525 has top spring valves and yes, it makes the horn more expensive. Best Flugel I ever played :D

From the Kanstul website:
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FEATURES
Hand Hammered, One Piece Copper Bell
Hand Lapped Pistons
Top Sprung Pistons
Receiver Accepts Bach Taper Shank Mouthpiece

Cheers,
Harry


I'm well aware the Kanstul 1525 flugelhorn has top-sprung valves, and that the 1525 has higher list price than the bottom-sprung Kanstul 1025 flugel. But I had a chance to compare a Kanstul 1525 against my bottom-sprung Calicchio Copper flugel, and I preferred my Calicchio.

I'm glad you like your Kanstul. Have fun playing it.
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Harry Hilgers
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nieuwguyski wrote:
Harry Hilgers wrote:
My Kanstul 1525 has top spring valves and yes, it makes the horn more expensive. Best Flugel I ever played

From the Kanstul website:
Quote:
FEATURES
Hand Hammered, One Piece Copper Bell
Hand Lapped Pistons
Top Sprung Pistons
Receiver Accepts Bach Taper Shank Mouthpiece

Cheers,
Harry


I'm well aware the Kanstul 1525 flugelhorn has top-sprung valves, and that the 1525 has higher list price than the bottom-sprung Kanstul 1025 flugel. But I had a chance to compare a Kanstul 1525 against my bottom-sprung Calicchio Copper flugel, and I preferred my Calicchio.

I'm glad you like your Kanstul. Have fun playing it.


Like/dis-like are a separate issue. Statics/Dynamics/Production-costs were the issue.

It is not always easy to separate emotion from "the math"
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThatDude wrote:
So for anyone who might find this thread in the future and finds themselves in a similar situation:


I got a Yamaha 635 which was their step up from the 631/731 and comes default with with the trigger for $800.

That was a good price. My mentor, Leon Merian, played one of those. I made the mistake of stating, in this forum, that it was designed from the Quesnon. This was when Bobby Shew was still playing Quesnons. He chimed in, and really torched my tail, stating that it was NOT a Queenie clone but a French Besson copy. I had the honor of being personally torched by BS. a lesson learned and an honor held dearly. He didn't switch to Yamaha flugels until the 6310 was developed. (Bobby, please correct me if I am wrong. Humbly Ed K)

PS If I am not mistaken, the current 631G has a trigger as standard equipment
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry Hilgers wrote:
Like/dis-like are a separate issue. Statics/Dynamics/Production-costs were the issue.

It is not always easy to separate emotion from "the math" :D


Well, I'm happy you're happy to have statically or dynamically paid more. I'm sure it feels worth it.
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