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ThatDude
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:56 pm    Post subject: Smallest cornet Reply with quote

Whatever are the smallest available cornets?
Looking for a pocket trumpet substitute for travel
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Smallest cornet Reply with quote

ThatDude wrote:
Whatever are the smallest available cornets?
Looking for a pocket trumpet substitute for travel


Don't entirely understand the question?

In terms of pitch- the smallest (widely available) cornet is the Eb soprano cornet.

In terms of size; nothing is going to be significantly smaller or more tightly wrapped than a pocket trumpet.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Smallest cornet Reply with quote

ThatDude wrote:
Whatever are the smallest available cornets?
Looking for a pocket trumpet substitute for travel


Did you Google pocket cornet?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carol Brass has two models of pocket trumpet that would fit the bill, one with a larger and one with a smaller bell. Contact HornTrader who has both of them for sale.

Carol Brass Bb cornets are, of course, larger than their Bb pocket trumpets, but still fairly short compared to standard-wrap Bb trumpets. Check them out at Thomann.de website.

Lastly, Carol Brass makes also a pocket C trumpet.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bach cr310 is a pretty small tightly wrapped cornet. Much more compact than any of my other cornets
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Conn Director 15a or 17a(Copper bell version) made in the 1960's. Short, very sturdy, and plays well. They are available at reasonable prices (for the most part!). If you just want a travel horn to throw in your suitcase, these work well. I am speaking from experience. Pristine examples crop up all the time online (along with junkers). They are not "pro level" horns, but play surprisingly well, heavy duty construction to survive hard student use with high quality bracing, thick metal, and reinforcement on tubing bends. Conn made millions of 'em...I bought a copper bell model in decent condition a few years ago for less than 100 bucks including shipping. It fits in a laptop bag along with a folder with room to spare, great to take to a rehearsal!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At this moment Carol mini pocket is the smallest new horn in the market, Holton use to make C105 I thing but is for many years out of product.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: Smallest cornet Reply with quote

ThatDude wrote:
Whatever are the smallest available cornets?
Looking for a pocket trumpet substitute for travel


You are looking for a pocket cornet? I've done that from time to time.

This is a fun read: http://www.pocketcornets.com/

I'm still looking. I don't want an Indian brand. The vintage ones are really hard to find. Maybe because Nick bought them all?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the comparison of the Benge pocket (normal size) with the Carol mini.

http://imgur.com/ec4H8nS
(can't seem to put the image here)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can find one try an Olds Recording Cornet. I used to own one and it was almost as small as my pocket trumpet, but better tone and ergonomics.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pc2001197 wrote:
Here is the comparison of the Benge pocket (normal size) with the Carol mini.

http://imgur.com/ec4H8nS
(can't seem to put the image here)



That is the CPT-1000 on the left and Benge on the right.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not looking for a pocket horn, I’m looking for a cornet that’s physically small but still a regular cornet.

Thanks for the conn director suggestion above


An Olds Recording is nice, but too expensive to not worry about damaging. This is not a horn that gets babied
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThatDude wrote:
Not looking for a pocket horn, I’m looking for a cornet that’s physically small but still a regular cornet.

Thanks for the conn director suggestion above


An Olds Recording is nice, but too expensive to not worry about damaging. This is not a horn that gets babied


Getzen 381, 481 and 782 cornets have rather tight wraps.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:59 pm    Post subject: Bach 310 Reply with quote

The Bach 310 cornet is a smaller than many of the other Shepherd's crook cornet. Enjoyable and excellent sound.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is also an inexpensive shepherd crook cornet called Besson 1000. Very well made.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Smallest cornet Reply with quote

ThatDude wrote:
Whatever are the smallest available cornets?
Looking for a pocket trumpet substitute for travel


Hi

I'm not sure where you are based, but the old Boosey and Hawkes cornets, such as the Regent or Imperial are smaller than modern short model cornets, and build like tanks.

i.e.

https://picclick.co.uk/Boosey-Hawkes-Imperial-Cornet-143033969993.html
(a random example from Google images, as I haven't currently got any method of posting a picture of mine).

All the best

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:56 am    Post subject: Smallest cornet Reply with quote

I don't mean for this to sound sexist,but you are never getting a male trumpet/cornet player to say that he has the smallest anything unless it is the smallest bank account. That's just MHO
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Often what seems to make a cornet different (besides debates over how conical they are, etc.) is wrap. But to make a trumpet/cornet smaller already requires a different wrap and I can't imagine a (for instance) shepherd's crook pocket cornet. Currently there's no one making a pocket trumpet that takes a cornet mouthpiece (as far as I've heard) or is making pocket trumpets in anything other than Bb and C, but maybe I'm wrong. I also have two Carol pockets (mini pocket in Bb and the regular C pocket trumpet) and like them. I think you could get a pocket trumpet with a cornet receiver made for it, and I'm guessing that sooner or later someone will make a Db or E pocket trumpet.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or just get a short-wrap piccolo.
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