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stanton Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 726 Location: Skokie, Illinois
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:58 pm Post subject: BlueJuice refills- nowhere to be found. Where'd they go???? |
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I just refilled my small bottle of Blue Juice today from my 8 oz refill size that has lasted some time. It was time to buy another. But when I went to search for it, every site that popped up said "this product is no longer available". I can still buy 2 oz bottles for $4.50 (which is a rip-off IMO for 2 oz of virtual gasoline). I suppose I could switch to another brand, but I've been very happy with BlueJuice's performance over the years.
Where can I buy an 8 oz refill bottle without being ripped off? [Even Amazon has it listed as a "Saxophone Case" for $23 (I kid you not)] _________________ Schilke B1, Bach 37, 1969 Getzen Severinsen Eterna
Bach C 229 w Charlie Melk custom work
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AJCarter Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 1280 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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HALLELUJAH
I'm sorry that your oil of choice is gone, but I have always detested Blue Juice. It reacted poorly with my personal chemistry, and it smells terrible to boot. First Al Cass, now this one..
Have you ever tried Hetman or Yamaha synthetic? _________________ (List horns here) |
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mafields627 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Nov 2001 Posts: 3776 Location: AL
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:22 am Post subject: |
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From what I recall, it has to do with the new requirements that the bottles are childproof and the 8 oz bottles not being so. _________________ --Matt--
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Smokin Joe Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 594 Location: Somerset, Mass.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:01 am Post subject: |
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It's probably what Mafields said, I was at my local music shop a couple of weeks ago and did notice that there was a new design to the smaller bottles. |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 7080 Location: Houston, TX.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:05 am Post subject: |
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AJCarter wrote: | HALLELUJAH
I'm sorry that your oil of choice is gone, but I have always detested Blue Juice. It reacted poorly with my personal chemistry, and it smells terrible to boot. First Al Cass, now this one..
Have you ever tried Hetman or Yamaha synthetic? |
Same here, Blue Juice is the ONLY oil that worked so badly for me that I had to give my horn a complete bath to get rid of it. I used Al Cass for YEARS because Schilke used to recommend it, probably because it’s so thin it might have worked well with tight Schilke valves, but today Herman’s works best for me. YMMV of course.
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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Crazy Finn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 8333 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:29 am Post subject: |
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A few points:
- Matt might be correct about needing to change the bottles. The Ultra Pure and Blue Juice small bottles were changed within the last year.
- One of the local music stores used to have the 8oz bottle, but it was not in stock the last few times I was there. One of the major distributors for Blue Juice for retailers now only carries the 2oz bottle.
- $4.50 is completely reasonable for valve oil. It was $2.50 or $2.99 when I was in junior high, but that was quite some time ago. Get over it.
- Blue Juice has more than just petroleum distillates in there. Which is why...
- I completely agree with above posters about Blue Juice. It's terrible. The detergents in there designed to "clean" the valves and horn gum and gunk up your valves for most people I know. The guys in the local band repair shop also think that as well. When a instrument comes in with Blue Juice in the case, generally that instrument has valve issues.
Now, there are exceptions for instruments and people. I've run into 2 situations were Blue Juice worked well for a person and instrument - as opposed to the several hundred that didn't (I taught band).
Go with Yamaha, Hetman, Ultra Pure. These are excellent oils that last longer, work better, and cause zero issues. _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
Selmer Radial Bb Trumpet
Yamaha 6335S Bb Trumpet
Besson 709 Bb Trumpet
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bach_again Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 2481 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:38 am Post subject: |
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AJCarter wrote: | HALLELUJAH
I'm sorry that your oil of choice is gone, but I have always detested Blue Juice. It reacted poorly with my personal chemistry, and it smells terrible to boot. First Al Cass, now this one..
Have you ever tried Hetman or Yamaha synthetic? |
Agreed!! 100% _________________ Maestro Arturo Sandoval on Barkley Microphones!
https://youtu.be/iLVMRvw5RRk
Michael Barkley Quartet - Portals:
https://michaelbarkley.bandcamp.com/album/portals
The best movie trumpet solo?
https://youtu.be/OnCnTA6toMU |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 7080 Location: Houston, TX.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:47 am Post subject: |
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Crazy Finn wrote: | .......
- $4.50 is completely reasonable for valve oil. It was $2.50 or $2.99 when I was in junior high, but that was quite some time ago. Get over it.
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No KIDDING.
And seriously, “ripped off”??? Really?
Having your house or car burglarized, being robbed, being cheated in a business dealing, an internet scam, THAT’S being “ripped off.” Voluntarily purchasing a product is not. Like anything else, if you feel that it’s overpriced, don’t buy it already. Valve oil is not a commodity that’s necessary for basic survival. 🙄
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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