Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8914 Location: Orange County, CA
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:32 pm Post subject:
I find that certain pro horns are easier to play. Easier to play quietly or loud with a satisfying quality of sound. Easier transition between partials through my playable range. More sound for less effort. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
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Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart
Wow... grateful for your generous and exhaustive replies! Right now I'm playing on a Yamaha 2335 and am very happy with it, so I don't think I'll be upgrading for a while, unless that thing called "lust" (as jetjaguar mentioned) gets in the way!!!
It's interesting the price differences between different instruments - I played flute before I switched to trumpet, and upgrading from a Selmer to a Trevor James cost me €1700... Now THAT might get me a nice new horn...
I played with a very good player who played in his national orchestra. His sight reading was excellent. His tone, intonation and blending were nearly perfect. His horn was/is a Yamaha 2335. I was sorry to see him leave. Your 2335 will not hold you back for a long time, maybe never depending on where you want to go with trumpet.
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:22 pm Post subject: question about upgrading from a student trumpet
If you are taking lessons and your teacher mentions it, it is probably time to start looking for an upgrade. beyond intermediate horns the top pro line horns will be more flexible, have been to tighter tolerances and just about anything else you can imagine in performance and sounding better. I have played a Yamaha 2330, is it? that's student level and they are very good, but compared to a Xeno horn it is like night and day You will be able to push your own envelope more and grow more and faster with a better horn. Get ready to pay more money too, even if you find a good deal on a used professional trumpet. Most of all, enjoy the challenge and the growth you experience. _________________ "There are two sides to a trumpeter's personality,
there is one that lives to lay waste to woodwinds and strings, leaving them lie blue and lifeless along a swath of destruction that is a
trumpeter's fury-then there is the dark side!" Irving Bush
Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 8333 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:37 pm Post subject:
Billy B wrote:
Have the student play a pro horn. If they sound noticeably better, buy the horn.
But if they don't, then get back in he practice room.
You can buy a Ferrari for gramma, but she's still going to drive like an old lady.
Nice post, good statements. The last line wins the thread (at least so far). _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
Selmer Radial Bb Trumpet
Yamaha 6335S Bb Trumpet
Besson 709 Bb Trumpet
Bach 184L Bb Cornet
Yamaha 731 Bb Flugelhorn
Joined: 24 Dec 2018 Posts: 3304 Location: Endwell NY USA
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:42 am Post subject:
'little old ladies' come in all age and gender !
Jay _________________ Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'.
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:52 am Post subject: Re: question about upgrading from a student trumpet
blbaumgarn wrote:
If you are taking lessons and your teacher mentions it, it is probably time to start looking for an upgrade. beyond intermediate horns the top pro line horns will be more flexible, have been to tighter tolerances and just about anything else you can imagine in performance and sounding better. I have played a Yamaha 2330, is it? that's student level and they are very good, but compared to a Xeno horn it is like night and day You will be able to push your own envelope more and grow more and faster with a better horn. Get ready to pay more money too, even if you find a good deal on a used professional trumpet. Most of all, enjoy the challenge and the growth you experience.
Excellent advise, and I didn't realize the signature quote was from Irving Bush. I've seen it attributed to others.
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Now THAT might get me a nice new horn... 
