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Kubelik81
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:17 am    Post subject: Bach Mercedes Mt Vernon (fabric card) Reply with quote

Hi all
I need help.
I bought a Mercedes Bach Mt Vernon and I would like to know the factory specifications of the horn (factory card)
Where can I get it? Is there any contact for this?
Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the Cyborg still has Mercedes cards as well as Strad cards:
https://www.bachloyalist.com/vincent-bach-shop-cards/
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iiipopes wrote:
If the Cyborg still has Mercedes cards as well as Strad cards:
https://www.bachloyalist.com/vincent-bach-shop-cards/


Thanks for the info
Any email where you can check this ???
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A search can do wonders.

From the linked site:

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If you contact Conn-Selmer customer service in Elkhart, IN and politely request a copy of the shop card they are most often willing to fax, email to you.

Conn Selmer
600 Industrial Pkwy
Elkhart, IN
(574) 522-1675


You could look at the site or check the Conn-Selmer site for contact info and ask them to email you info.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s probably going to wind up being .453 medium bore with either a 37 or 38 bell. But you never know, Bach did some crazy stuff.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rompson wrote:
It’s probably going to wind up being .453 medium bore with either a 37 or 38 bell. But you never know, Bach did some crazy stuff.
That’s correct. Especially about the crazy stuff. Check out the Mercedes article at Vincentbachsworld.com for more details. The shop card and a visual inspection is really the only way to know how your instrument was configured when it left the factory.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rockford wrote:
Rompson wrote:
It’s probably going to wind up being .453 medium bore with either a 37 or 38 bell. But you never know, Bach did some crazy stuff.
That’s correct. Especially about the crazy stuff. Check out the Mercedes article at Vincentbachsworld.com for more details. The shop card and a visual inspection is really the only way to know how your instrument was configured when it left the factory.



Thank you for your answers.
I have written to Marketing@Conn-Selmer.com asking.
Is there another option to consult via email?
regards
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I call and ask two weeks ago and someone told me they would mail it a copy. I have not receiving anything but I did not send a follow email today looking to see if I can get a copy.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzvuu wrote:
I call and ask two weeks ago and someone told me they would mail it a copy. I have not receiving anything but I did not send a follow email today looking to see if I can get a copy.



They have answered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shop Card:
Mercedes
Valve Bore: 0.453"
Valve-Model E
Valve-Fit: 20
Plating of Piston: Monel
Bell-Mandril: 38K
Bell-Brass. Amer.
Gauge: Stand.
Mouthpipe: 7
Date-Completed 10/17/1958
Finish 1 1/2 CL
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got mine early this week in email also.

Shop Card:
Strad
Valve Bore: 0.459"
Valve-Model E
Valve-Fit: 16
Plating of Piston: Monel
Bell-Mandril: 37
Bell-Brass. Amer.
Gauge: Stand.
Mouthpipe: 25
Date-Completed 11/25/1959
Finish 1 1/2 CL
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably a .456 bore two piece 38 Bell and #7 leadpipe. All brass construction.

I had one for many years though my valves had a longer down/upstroke length than current Bachs. I preferred it to the Stock 25/37 Strad.
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