Bach 37 for playing Jazz Ballads?

[PawnshopSelmerMan]

Hello,

I have been playing for a bit over a year, but have not seen the bach 37 playing any ballads. Has anyone seen a ballad being played with a Bach 37 with success. If so, would you say it was so inspirational that you would consider a Bach 37 yourself for such an occasion. Let me know please.

Peace,

Pawnshopselmerman.
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[Pete]

Why not? The 37 bell is in between the 72 and 43 bells. I played one with a 43 leadpipe for a while and really liked it for everything. Unfortunately, a friend of mine needed a horn and begged me for it. I wish that I had never sold to him.

Pete

[PawnshopSelmerMan]

I guess that I just thought that people would kind of not prefer because of its "core" sound. I was thinking people would say they much prefer a Bach 43 or some Yamaha. Thanks for the reply.
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[Ed Kennedy]

As we like to say: "It ain't the arrow, it's the indian." I personally played an ML 37 all through college and played many gigs which included ballads.
The great Chicago lead trumpet player, Danny Barber plays one as do many others. The 43 bell is also popular, the great studio man Warren Leuning (RIP) played an ML43 with a 7C mouthpiece. LA icon Gary Grant aslo plays a 43. Charlie Davis played an ML37 Sterling bell among other horns. A ballad is all in the sound you make and the phrasing and expression. Listen to great singers, male and female, copy their phrasing and inflections, learn the words (Carlie Parker said). When you develop to a certain point that you specialize in a certain genre you may go to specialized equipment (or not).

Warren Leuning on his 43:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SjmdZ0jGVo

[zaferis]

well. I use my 37 for 90% or more of my work.. quintets, solos, and big band work (unless I know I'm sitting mostly on the lead book - I'm fortunate enough to have a second-commercial Bb)

Why not? But then when I hear a beautiful ballad played with good sound, I'm not checking the model or the mouthpiece.. just appreciating the players efforts.

If that's the ax you like.. use it.
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[Crazy Finn]

There certainly tends to be more variety as far as horns that you see in jazz as opposed to classical/orchestral/legit/concert band realms - where Bach and Yamaha are much more the norm.

Still, not sure there's anything fundamentally wrong with a 37 for this application.

As has been stated, much more about the player than the horn in any case for any setting.

If you can get your sound concept work on your horn, then you're fine.
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[Tobylou8]

In my neck of the woods back in the day, most players had a 37 and used it for everything, jazz, rock, ballads, classical, funk and whatever else had a check at the end of the night. It'll work. I have a 37 that the previous owner used for everything listed above. He got it because he knew the 37 was a solid horn. It's an early Elkhardt too!

[area51recording]

Well, there it is. I played a 37 for most of my career and couldn't play a ballad to save my soul. At least now I know it wasn't my fault

[veery715]

[area51recording]

Think of it this way....if YOU can play a ballad, the 37 ain't gonna hold you back.....

[intrepidpooch]

Woody Shaw sounded just fine on his Bach 37.
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[Bill Ortiz]

The Bach 37 is an excellent jazz horn-ballads included.
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[Brad361]

Taking into account the fact that the OP states he has limited experience, and I’m not trying to be sarcastic, but that’s kind of like asking if a Toyota is suitable for long drives.

To the OP: It’s not the horn, even though most of us here (myself included) like to discuss equipment. It’s a trumpet forum, there’s nothing wrong with that, but
this is kind of like when one of my sixth grade student’s parents ask me if a pro horn will make things much easier for their kid compared to his Yamaha 2335. Not really.

Brad
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[maynard-46]

[HERMOKIWI]

You can change the sound of a horn quite a bit by changing the mouthpiece. So a player can produce brighter or darker sounds on a Bach 37 depending on the mouthpiece. My point is that you're not limited to just one sound on a Bach 37. Some sounds may be better than others for ballads but which sounds are better is a matter of personal preference. Anything appropriate for a Bb trumpet can sound great on a Bach 37.
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[vwag]

Bria Skonberg is fun to listen to, and she bought an 80s Bach 37 late last year.

Good clip here: https://www.instagram.com/p/BwC0tiZAIYH/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1azytgqkowqn0

[chapahi]

This could be a 43 but I think it shows anyway that a strad is great for ballads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi3QbwKXdN8
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[THE BD]

I think that while the Bach Strad 37 is not my personal preference as a main horn; it is a fantastic horn and I can't think of a single application that I wouldn't be comfortable playing one in, jazz ballads included!
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Yeah, I did that!

[zaferis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC-ajxZB5FE

gernerally, I'm not all that concerned with what instrument is being played.. I LOVE my 37, I know there are a bunch out there, but here's one....
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