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fredo
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so pinstriper, it is not Capt Kirk who resuscitated ?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course this has to be a joke. No one in their right mind would alter a large bore Committee in "mint condition" with "100% of the old lacquer ... intact," especially sanding off the engraving. Too stupid for words.

So what's the real purpose of the post? Who knows? Apparently someone has too much time on their hands.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fredo wrote:
so pinstriper, it is not Capt Kirk who resuscitated ?

It is definitely not. The posts have too few misspellings and there aren’t any rants against Bach.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's say for argument this post is real, I for would like to put to rest what a restoration really means.

In our industry we have the term overhaul which is the equivalent of "body and fender" with a fresh coat, think Maaco paint job. No mechanical work like valve rebuilding is covered but often thought as an add-on.

Then there's mechanical overhaul where valves are rebuilt to restore seal and reliable action, plus badly worn parts get repaired or replaced, but leaving existing finish intact.

A restoration can be a combination of these two, but where less aggressive polishing is done so to maintain as much of the original piece as possible.

Museum conservationists prefer to do nothing more than a light cleaning and none of the above. The thinking is you don't want to compromise the piece or it's history.

For those that watch the PBS program Antique Roadshow, allow me to paraphrase "Mrs. Jones, your piece is indeed a Chippendale, too bad you refinished it. It's now worth far less than if you had left it alone." You get the idea.

Here's a link to Wikipedia regarding antique restoration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiques_restoration

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tptptp wrote:
I decided to do a restoration project on my Tesla. The dash is awfully plain, and the car is eerily quiet, so I added a tach and an oil pressure gauge, and the muscle car noise simulator makes it really nice.


Add a bottle of nitrous, and you have Ludicrous Mode 2.0
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A proper restorer would have used 100 grit sandpaper. Using scotch-brite pads is strictly amateurish.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James Becker wrote:
...For those that watch the PBS program Antique Roadshow, allow me to paraphrase "Mrs. Jones, your piece is indeed a Chippendale, too bad you refinished it. It's now worth far less than if you had left it alone." You get the idea....


What I always find interesting is that polishing an antique piece that is brass, copper, or bronze destroys its value, but polishing a silver antique piece is perfectly ok. I suppose it's an aesthetic thing, where oxidized brass, copper, and bronze have a pleasing "patina", but oxidized, blackened silver does not.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say that the action of jazzspazz is not that bad. In fact by buffing away the logo he corrected, obviously without being selfish, the hot air prices of Committees to a pré-Botti level of a few hundred dollars which is the right price for that overvalued horns . Good action!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've been trolled
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

delano wrote:
I have to say that the action of jazzspazz is not that bad. In fact by buffing away the logo he corrected, obviously without being selfish, the hot air prices of Committees to a pré-Botti level of a few hundred dollars which is the right price for that overvalued horns . Good action!


AGREE!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The price of Martin Committee trumpets are like anything else, fetching what the market will bear. In the eyes of a serious collector what the OP did seriously compromised it’s resale value. Okay, it’s not as if it’s a violin that can command millions, but still.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I finished restoration on a house here in Georgia that was built in 1785, the owner and I were sitting in it, drinking tea. The owner remarked, "This is wonderful work that you did; nobody will ever know you were here; it looks as if it was just built, then carefully maintained."

While the original post is surely a trolling post, it never hurts to talk about the aims of proper restoration of old objects.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok that's for sure 100% not a legit post.
That photo is mine and was taken in 2010.
The bell pictured is from a one-of -a-kind Martin horn build by Schilke as a prototype. It's original to the horn and was not buffed - it featured a raw brass bell and no engraving (ala Schilke).

It was also a medium bore and the serial number was in the 181,xxx range and featured an X above the valve #.
I know exactly who has this horn.

Here's a link to my blog with the image:

https://trumpetgear.wordpress.com/2010/10/16/an-interesting-piece-of-martin-and-schilke-history-captured/
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the uninitiated, YOU'VE BEEN SPAZZED!!!! This horn is just his intermediate beginner horn he really doesn't care about. I think he has another Committee that is blue with flames down the bell!!
His pro horn is an Olds Ambassador. His are some of the funniest posts on the PLANET EARTH or any other planet!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tobylou8 wrote:
To the uninitiated, YOU'VE BEEN SPAZZED!!!! This horn is just his intermediate beginner horn he really doesn't care about. I think he has another Committee that is blue with flames down the bell!!
His pro horn is an Olds Ambassador. His are some of the funniest posts on the PLANET EARTH or any other planet!


Yeah, just hilarious. No, really.🙄

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tobylou8 wrote:
To the uninitiated, YOU'VE BEEN SPAZZED!!!! This horn is just his intermediate beginner horn he really doesn't care about. I think he has another Committee that is blue with flames down the bell!!
His pro horn is an Olds Ambassador. His are some of the funniest posts on the PLANET EARTH or any other planet!


Nope, that is actually my photo of an actual Martin Committee as per my 2010 post. I hate it when people rip my content for this kind of stuff. Too lazy to even change the name of the photo.....
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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