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Stutrumpet Regular Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2018 Posts: 48
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:27 pm Post subject: Schilke B1 and Schilke C5 |
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Hi Guys,
As a returning previously retired player I'm now having fun playing again. I kept my Schilke B1 and recently got an old but excellent C5.
Currently I use a Schilke 16 for everything except piccolo but with the B1 so free-blowing I'm looking for something to give a broader, darker sound for orchestras. I'm trying a GR67 MB and this has a slightly smaller rim and shallower cup but seems to give a great sound and is very comfortable. I'm now considering getting a GR67 LX and a GR67.4 C 2.8
However, I've seen warnings here that Schilke mouthpieces are designed specifically to match their receivers so there could be 'gap' problems?
For the C5 I find that the sound with the Schilke 16 can be big but a bit 'light/bright' and I'd like it to be more Bach 239 ish. When trying a friend's Warburton 2MC rim on a #11* backbore the larger throat and backbone does give it more depth. I prefer the Schilke/GR rims though.
Any suggestions welcome.
Thanks in advance and apologies for rambling on.
Stu |
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Jerry Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2002 Posts: 2157 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Going from a 67 MB to a 67 LX would be a dramatic change. If you like the 67 MB I would think trying a 67 M2 or possibly a 67 MX would still give you a fuller sound than than the 67 MB but it wouldn't be nearly as physically demanding to play as the 67 LX. |
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Stutrumpet Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Jerry - good advice. It helps me narrow down the ones to test when I take a trip to the big city.
I've sent an email to Schilke too |
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lexluther Veteran Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2015 Posts: 108 Location: Northwest, Indiana
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:32 am Post subject: |
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My experience with going from GR to Schilke MP's was quite different. I was a 67 size player and when I tried the 16, it felt tiny and restrictive to me. The 17 was a little better, but still very restrictive. I feel most at home on the Schilke 18. I don't think the GR 67 and Schilke 16 size are comparable sizes at all. I think the two MP's you are comparing are nothing even close. The cup width on the 67 will be considerably wider. I hope this helps! _________________ Bb - Schilke B6, SB4-MG Soloiste
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Ed Kennedy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 3187
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:23 am Post subject: |
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The Schilke 16C4 was designed for Tom Stevens (LAPhil), With a larger backbore it might work for you. Also a larger throat (a 25 or 24) along with a D or Schmidt back-bore on your 16 might work for you. The 17D4 and 17D4d are also possibilities as well as the Symphony Series #2 https://www.schilkemusic.com/products/mouthpieces/custom-series/#symphony-trumpet
You might also look at the Curry 1.25BC or 1.5BC
The C5 is a fairly bright horn and it never really penetrated the American orchestral market. That's why the S series and later the SC-HD series were introduced.
I can tell you that one major orchestra, the Minnesota Orchestra, used custom medium bore C7s in the late '60's. I believe that Manny Lauriano, who followed Schluter into Minnesota played a modified SC22 prior to going to the dark side of the force (Monette).
ED K Schilke tech in the '70's |
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