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GabeJ
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:57 pm    Post subject: Returning after 30 years Reply with quote

Hello
I was re-acquainted with members of my old Drum & Bugle Corps a couple months ago. The horn line is quite small now and could use my help.

They gave me an Ultratone II soprano, and I've been playing long tones etc. building my way back, hoping like others to avoid the high pressure habits of my younger days. For now I'm playing with a practice mute so as not to torture the family. I picked up a Shilke 14A4A like I used 'back in the day', but I find that a Yamaha 9C4 suits me better.

I also grabbed my dad's 1951 King Liberty Bb trumpet. That was my first horn, and the one I played through high school. Its got a medium bore and compared to the bugle, is very restrictive. I figure it is a great training tool for the Drum Corp, like lifting weights. Anybody have any opinions on this point?

I'm excited about playing again. My tone has greatly improved, though I'm called on a bit too early in my come back to support the lead soprano parts.

Deep down I think I'm a frustrated flugelhorn player. I started saving up.



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mrhappy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

welcome to the comeback trail!
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Dayton
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back to trumpet playing! I don't know what your level of accomplishment is now, or was before you stopped playing, so it is difficult to offer useful advice, but here are a few thoughts:

-- Try to find as many opportunities to practice WITHOUT the practice mute as possible.

-- Get some lessons from a good teacher as soon as possible. This will help get you pointed in the right direction and minimize the likelihood of forming bad habits that can limit your progress.

-- Be patient. It will probably take a while to get back into good playing shape. Make sure you've built a strong foundation through good fundamentals and gradually increased practice time before you start thinking about performing again.

-- No specific thoughts on your gear. Whether it is a trumpet or a mouthpiece, I'd say that if it feels good and you can produce a good sound it is probably at least adequate. Once you get a teacher see what he/she thinks.

Have fun!
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GabeJ
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you both.

I was remarkably average, or less so when I stopped. The music I played wasn't very demanding or refined. Not very much range above the staff. Good tone though.

Forgive my ignorance of this site, but is there some resource to find a 'good' teacher? I was a horn teacher at a local music store when I was just out of high school.... that's not what I'm looking for.

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TrumpetMD
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Returning after 30 years Reply with quote

GabeJ wrote:
Deep down I think I'm a frustrated flugelhorn player. I started saving up.

We're all frustrated flugelhorn players.

Welcome back. Lots of comeback players, including myself. I'm a music school dropout, who started college as a music major, but ended up going in a different direction. After a 20-year layoff, I picked up the trumpet again about 10 years ago. Nowadays I play in a jazz trio, with about 3-4 gigs a month. Like many things in life, playing the trumpet is uniquely rewarding the second time around.

Mike
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Zenith
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back to the wonderful world of trumpet!

I echo what was pointed out already. Try to practice without the practice mute. It is completely different with the mute on. The resistance is different and the required wind power etc for each note will be different as a result. You will be training yourself to a different set of coordination required compared to 'normal' trumpet playing. Do you have a car? Practicing in it is one option.

As for teacher, go find the best that you can afford in your area. Build a solid foundation is more important than anything else at your current stage. Another option is to have Skype lessons. There are extremely good teachers around who do Skype lessons. Do a quick search here and you will find them.

If having a teacher is not an option, I suggest you take a look at Bill Knevitt's books. I bought mine at qpress.ca (no affiliation). He has books for different levels of players (beginners, intermediate, and pro/advanced). And the lessons are well structured so you can do it at home on your own, provided that you basic playing mechanism is correct to start with (don't place your mouthpiece too low! Many suggest 2/3 upper lips 1/3 lower lips). Judging from what you said about your range, his "Developing Trumpet Player" may be right for you.

Enjoy!
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jhatpro
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back!

To recondition yourself:

Limit your play to as many ten minute sessions as you can fit into your day.

Invest in a Yamaha Silent Brass system to utilize late night hours.

Play everything slow and soft.

Mix drills with tunes.

Join some bands.
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