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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:03 am    Post subject: Dixieland Sound Model Reply with quote

If you play trad/Dixieland, who’s your sound model?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there are several answers to your question and they depend on what your musical goals or your entertainment goals are.

If the bulk of your audiences are the rest home clientele, I would think something exciting and entertaining like the Al Hirt/Pete Fountain or Jim Cullum's bands would fit right in.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn’t agree more. While there are many to admire my model is Cullum.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn’t agree more. While there are many to admire my model is Cullum.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wild Bill Davison! Boy, what a hot cornet sound. He's the reason I bought my 1930's King Master cornet. I like that he never tries to do too much fancy stuff - he just lets it rip, and devil take the hindmost. That's how you do it.

Also, of course, the great Ruby Braff, whose subtlety and beautiful phrasing remains thoroughly modern and inspirational to this day. If you could play even one note as sweet as Braff, your whole musical career would be worth it.

Those are the two that remain in my playlist, anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting the link to Red. Saw this thread earlier and his name immediately came to mind. His "World On a String" album for Victor is a true classic.
Bobby Hackett should also be in this conversation. Think how different these players sound! Great individualists that can be recognized in just a few notes.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louis old school
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaye now



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was 2012
This is now. She's the bomb....
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love Pops and Bix sound and style but Wild Bill Davinson is the guy that he is my main sound and perform influence.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wild Bill Davison! This is a crackling lead approach to playing the melody. In terms of sweet improv sound, listen to the late Connie Jones. A contemporary player who has it all going on--big sound, big ideas, great fluidity: Marc Caparone.

Check out: 2:05

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobby Hackett:

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, not exactly Dixieland style, but I would listen to some older Warren Vache too. I always enjoy l8stening to him play cornet.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without knowing what specific era you're talking about, it's difficult to answer.

A lot of folks will emulate the sound of revival-era (mostly 50s onward) players even if they're playing music that might lend itself more appropriate to vintage Louis or Bix, for example.

But I would say you're going to run into some potential stylistic issues if you play something suited for the style of Natty Dominique with the sound model/harmonic approach of Bobby Hackett, for example.

In the end, I'd suggest concentrating on where you want the energy and mood to be, and embrace your own sound.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My main inspiration these days is Shaye Cohn of Tuba Skinny, but also Marla Dixon of Shotgun Jazz band, Louis Armstrong and Gunhild Carling (who is clearly inspired by Louis Armstrong).

There are so many good videos of these guys on YouTube - how lucky we are !

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't this getting too complex? The OP needs to consider his audience, not a myriad of favourite styles by us.

I personally do not put your basic pizza parlor, garter straps on the sleeves type Dixie at the top of my favourite, old-time music list. But the audience is likely unhip, senior citizens probably mainly older ladies. Decide what this audience wants to hear and give them that.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, most of our listeners are elderly women. (Once asked a group of them where all the guys were and one said, “Oh, they’re all dead!”) But they’re not all unhip. One asked me what I thought of Clora Bryant’s playing. Another lady said if Jabbo Smith had been able to sing he might have been as famous as Louis Armstrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm lucky enough to play mostly for "hip younger" people. We have a house style that perhaps in a way is more like our sound models in Tuba Skinny and Shotgun, and due to that it seems "younger" people are attracted to it - even those who have never heard that style of music before.

We do gigs for senior citizens in nursing homes as well, and we turn it down slightly - but even there we see feet tapping at the most unexpected places.

There is also a quite popular (among the "hipsters") trad/swing jazz band here in Norway that has paved quite a bit of way for us - "Swing'It Dixieband".

Gisle, in "The Sloppy Jazz Newbies"
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