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alaskanaut
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:55 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for heavy slide grease, or other solution Reply with quote

Does anyone have recommendations for loose tuning slide on an old horn?

I have an old Bach Strad that I recently picked up. Even with the Hetman TSG, which is very tick, the slide will still move on its own, and slide out while playing.

Is there a heavy grease I can use?

Or, is this a repair shop issue?

Thanks everyone.
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derekthor
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try Monster Oil slide grease.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it were me I would have a repair person adjust the fit. The last time I had this done it to five minutes and I wasn't charged.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can Also replace the slide tubes. I wouldn’t be surprised if the horn plays better afterwards.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a Hetman for that...
I use № 1 for my flugel valves, № 2 for my other trumpet valves, № 4 for 3rd-valve slides, and № 7 for my tuning slide.

They make a 7.5 (thicker) and an 8 (thicker still).

EDIT just looked up what "TSG" is and that's the same as № 8. Sorry...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ultra-Pure also has a VERY sticky lube...

And a good repair tech can make it better..
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve used anhydrous lanolin. Very sticky. [url] https://www.amazon.com/Lanolin-Anhydrous-Pharmaceutical-Grade/dp/B000V70MWS[/url]

I have a colleague who used high vacuum grease. [url] https://www.duniway.com/images/_pg/datasheet-DC-150.pdf[/url]
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for anhydrous lanolin. Buy it a Babies-R-Us or any other places that sell nursing supplies. I like that it's medical grade and couldn't be safer.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve tried most, it not all of the heavy greases. I’ve had the loose slide problem on several vintage horns I used daily. Ultra Pure “Heavy” is what has worked for me with the best results. Give it a try, a $4 small tub should last a couple of years or more
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HERMOKIWI
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aspeyrer wrote:
I’ve tried most, it not all of the heavy greases. I’ve had the loose slide problem on several vintage horns I used daily. Ultra Pure “Heavy” is what has worked for me with the best results. Give it a try, a $4 small tub should last a couple of years or more


Yes, Ultra Pure Heavy is goopy, sticky stuff that works for loose tuning slides.

Hetman used to have a product like this I thought worked even better (although it was more messy to apply) but it was discontinued.

There may be a point, however, at which the best remedy is to just have a tech expand the slide to restore the original fit.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anhydrous lanolin. if you think it is TOO thick on the slide just add some drops of valve oil
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a repair is probly best solution here. A good shop can expand the tubes to fit right. I’ve had success using the selmer red slide gel too. I think you could find it on amazon.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The vintage Selmer thick Red stuff can't be beat.
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