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Billy B Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:30 am Post subject: Piccolo |
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What first picc pieces do you assign students? _________________ Bill Bergren |
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bagmangood Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Feb 2009 Posts: 1351 Location: SF Bay Area
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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:24 am Post subject: |
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The first full piece my teacher gave me was the Purcell first sonata in D - pretty straightforward and not too high but plenty of room for music. _________________ More than one trumpet
A "few" mouthpieces |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8910 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:27 am Post subject: |
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When I got my picc I was told to stick with my regular routine on the Bb and to only insert a short amount of time on the picc, specifically to play a single Clarke study each day. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
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Jaw04 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 31 Dec 2015 Posts: 897 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Viviani Sonata 1 is awesome music and I enjoyed learning it as a music major. I would recommend that one, also has string parts that would be great for a recital to include more instruments than just trumpet and piano, which IMO gets old. |
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mbauer Regular Member
Joined: 31 Aug 2017 Posts: 14 Location: New Orleans
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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I played the Manfredini with a guy that had some more experience when I just started out. The double concertos are nice cause you get to share the load and if there's another good player around they can be a good example. |
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mcstock Veteran Member
Joined: 25 Nov 2001 Posts: 466 Location: Norman, OK
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:17 am Post subject: |
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The Handel Suite is pretty accessible and offers a lot of options to trade sections with the keyboard and get some rest. Same with the Telemann Heroic Marches.
David Hickman recently posted a video of his suggestions.
https://youtu.be/xE6VPfUjcRI
Matt _________________ “It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows.”
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Don Herman rev2 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 8951 Location: Monument, CO
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Been a while since teaching, but for myself and students:
Getchell, Arban's "Art of Phrasing", on regular Bb and picc so they get the tune in mind then play it up an octave melodiously. It's a theory. Then move on to (or alternate with) excerpts in Webster and Hickman picc books before assigning full songs. _________________ "After silence, that which best expresses the inexpressible, is music" - Aldous Huxley |
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Trptguy Veteran Member
Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 193 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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I started with the Fasch Concerto and Scarlatti Duos with soprano. For my students i usually give them a Voluntary as those are generally easier.
For some reason my first teacher Louis Ranger wanted me to start on the A side of the horn. I never questioned it I just did it. He never gave me his reasons......seemed to have worked out ok _________________ Seelan Manickam
Trumpet Faculty, Keene State College
Director, Keene State Orchestra
www.balabrass.org
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8910 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Trptguy wrote: | For some reason my first teacher Louis Ranger wanted me to start on the A side of the horn. I never questioned it I just did it. He never gave me his reasons......seemed to have worked out ok |
My picc plays noticeably better on the A side. But because I never have cause to perform on the A side I go ahead and suffer the Bb side and just work it out. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
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Turkle Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 2450 Location: New York City
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:07 am Post subject: |
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As a very occasional piccolo player, I found Telemann's Heroic Marches to be totally accessible, fun, and musical. Plus the piano parts are simple enough that you won't give your accompianist fits.
Also, the Trumpet Wedding Book contains a whole bunch of music that's relatively easy and, most importantly, can get you paid right away!! Which, let's be honest, why else are you learning to play the picc. Get that loot! _________________ Yamaha 8310Z trumpet
Yamaha 8310Z flugel
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patdublc Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 1049 Location: Salisbury, MD
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:15 am Post subject: |
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It's pretty rare that I play on the Bb side of the horn. I spend most of the time on the A side. I agree with the Voluntary approach. Clarke Trumpet Voluntary is great. I usually start picc players on the Fischer Trumpet Tune. It is short and easy so a great introductory piece. _________________ Pat Shaner
Play Wedge Mouthpieces by Dr. Dave exclusively.
Experiment with LOTS of horn makes and models. |
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Worley New Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2020 Posts: 5 Location: TX
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:37 pm Post subject: Picc |
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I started dabbling on my own in the Webster method and then was assigned Torelli's Concerto in D and found that to be very accessible. |
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel Heavyweight Member
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This may be a question that should be its own post, but when you start students on piccolo do you have resources to help them with transposing from A? It may be most piccolo students are high enough level that this isn't a problem, but I'd be grateful for any advice. |
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JGulyas Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Apr 2002 Posts: 726 Location: Roanoke, VA
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:00 am Post subject: |
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel wrote: | This may be a question that should be its own post, but when you start students on piccolo do you have resources to help them with transposing from A? It may be most piccolo students are high enough level that this isn't a problem, but I'd be grateful for any advice. |
I was taught clef transposition; Bass Clef for D/Eb (on Bb), Mezzo-Soprano for F (also for picc in D on the A side). _________________ All the Best,
John
US Navy Bandsman 1996-2010 (Trumpet; Audio Engineer)
Mpc - Kanstul/Monette B6, Hammond Design custom "JG"
Bb - Yamaha 6335HGSII
C - Eastman ETR530
Picc - NoName Chinese |
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