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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:03 pm    Post subject: Why can’t they fake the musicians better? Reply with quote

It always bugs me when I see a “trumpet” player on a show or in a movie where they are fingering 32nd notes and the music is whole notes, or vice versa. Admittedly this might also be due to a non-musical editor.

Last night I was watching a show. The premise is one of the show’s stars who is in high school is pulling for a bond measure to lose so arts will be cut and she will not end up losing her straight A’s due to being a poor sketch artist. Her close friend is in band, plays an oboe and hopes to win a college scholarship in oboe. If the bond measure loses band will be cut, along with her chances for the scholarship.

As the friend is talking she gestures with her instrument. Revealing it is an English horn, not an oboe
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that it looks stupid to see someone faking an instrument unconvincingly, but I imagine that directors, etc., just don’t especially care.

You see it in other areas of Hollywood, a cowboy shoots his revolver like 15 times without a reload, a car skids to a stop on s a dirt road accompanied by squealing tires....

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You see this with chess as well. Folks, the white square goes in the bottom-right corner and the queen is always on a square of her color. Movies ALWAYS set the board up incorrectly. Like, every time. I don't understand how someone couldn't take 30 seconds to look up how to set it up the right way?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would be incredibly hard to accurately "fake" playing a musical instrument. There are so many fine motor skills that go into it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LaTrompeta wrote:
I think it would be incredibly hard to accurately "fake" playing a musical instrument. There are so many fine motor skills that go into it.


I mean, just hire a musician as your actor. Problem solved. I have a lot of actor friends who forward me casting requests for trumpet players all the time. Now, I'm not good-looking enough to be on television, so I politely forward those along to my more handsome trumpet-playing colleagues. But this is a very solvable problem!

However, even in films where you actually have real musicians *actually playing on-screen,* the demands of the editing process can still mess things up. The lady and I recently watched an utterly terrible British film noir called "All Night Long," which featured the talents of Dave Brubeck and Charles Mingus on-screen. Despite the fact that they were obviously playing their instruments, their motions did not always match the music! You can't cover all the bases without extremely careful planning...

I never saw it, but how did an acclaimed film like "Whiplash" deal with it?
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