Shulman system

trumpetjens · Veteran Member Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 241

Anyone have a Shulman System they would like to move? Please email me privately

Jens Lindemann
www.trumpetsolo.com

RGrahame · Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:40 am Post subject: SHULMAN SYSTEM FOR TRUMPET

I have Essential Tremor and am interested in how the Shulman System might help me in playing. Where can I find one? Would it help someone who can't hold the trumpet/cornet steady? What are they worth?

I have an ErgoBrass that I am trying to work with and next week I am seeing an Occupational Therapist who specializes in ET. The clinic has engineers who can design and build assistive devices.
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plp · Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:43 pm Post subject:

I tried to track down one for a friend, who had rotator cuff surgery on his left shoulder, and simply could not support his horn. Awesome player, spent 8 hours a day on a podium waving a baton in his right hand, but just could not make it through the first hour of a gig playing.

They have achieved unicorn status, and would urge all y'all entrepreneurs out there, reinvent the wheel with a different trademark.
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JGulyas · Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:05 pm Post subject:

Nice to see you here, Jens. I remember when you started in the CBQ back in the day!
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RGrahame · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:39 am Post subject:

Someone did reply to one of my requests and we were corresponding, but I have not heard from him in a few days. I'm sort of eager to going on this, so is there anyone else out there with one.

I have an upcoming appointment with an occupational therapist at the Movement Disorders Clinic and would like to take the Shulman and my ErgoBrass along. There is also an organization of retired engineers who design and build specialized assistive devices.
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Getzen Eterna, Variety of mouthpieces
Yamaha Trumpet, Variety of mouthpieces

kevin_soda · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:28 pm Post subject:

RGrahame · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:50 pm Post subject:

It's a bit of a complicated process to get registered, but I managed to post a wanted ad. I hope I did it correctly.

Oddly, a search in the Market Place does not reveal any ads for a Shulman.
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1921 Conn Victor 80A, Conn 18 vintage mouthpiece, original mouthpiece, Wicks 4B (all short shank)
Getzen Eterna, Variety of mouthpieces
Yamaha Trumpet, Variety of mouthpieces

kevin_soda · Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:21 am Post subject:

I removed my ad once I found one. Itâ€™s been a game changer for me. I hope you can find one.

Someone should buy the rights to make these again. You could 3D print most of the parts. The world needs this product. Maybe ACB could get behind it? Câ€™mon, Trent! Do it!
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RGrahame · Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:20 am Post subject:

I have been corresponding with a member here who will sell me his, however he is busy with health issues at the moment, so I'm waiting.

In the meantime, I have been working with my ErgoBrass and it helps sometimes, if I'm not having too bad of a day with my tremors. But it is a little too awkward. I'm really looking forward to the Shulman.

I E-mailed Matt hoping to find out what has happened to the production of his invention, but he has not answered me. Does anyone know how to get ahold of him? I agree that this product needs to get back into production.
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1921 Conn Victor 80A, Conn 18 vintage mouthpiece, original mouthpiece, Wicks 4B (all short shank)
Getzen Eterna, Variety of mouthpieces
Yamaha Trumpet, Variety of mouthpieces

Didymus · Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:20 pm Post subject: Why?

kevin_soda · Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:43 pm Post subject:

I think the market may have been too narrow to be "commercially viable." I don't think they were cheap either.

My guess is that he made them all himself and that probably wasn't sustainable. It's all not a sure solution for everyone but I'm sure it could help thousands of trumpet players.
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RGrahame · Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:35 pm Post subject:

I'm working on getting my hands on the Shulman System. I still don't know much about it, but maybe I know most of what there is to know. I'm supposing that it is a pretty simple device.

What I have wondered though is if there were changes or variations? Would versions made later have any improvement over the earlier ones?

What could be broken, worn, or damaged?

Is there anything else to know about it?
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1921 Conn Victor 80A, Conn 18 vintage mouthpiece, original mouthpiece, Wicks 4B (all short shank)
Getzen Eterna, Variety of mouthpieces
Yamaha Trumpet, Variety of mouthpieces

RGrahame · Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:36 pm Post subject:

I received a nice E-mail from Matt informing me that he is in discussions with another player about getting the Shulman System back into production. I think the other player is a member here, so perhaps, if he is tuned into this discussion, he might have some further news. JL are you around?

In the meantime, perhaps a bit of nudging from others here might see the process expedited.
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1921 Conn Victor 80A, Conn 18 vintage mouthpiece, original mouthpiece, Wicks 4B (all short shank)
Getzen Eterna, Variety of mouthpieces
Yamaha Trumpet, Variety of mouthpieces

kevin_soda · Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:39 pm Post subject:

I think there were some compromises with the original design that could be mitigated by advancements in manufacturing since the originals were made. I think the trumpet world needs the Schulman System and I hope they can bring them back.
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Vince.Green · Veteran Member Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 148

I'm not trying a sales job here but since it seems there are players in need of these, you can text me 206.954.6825.
I have two of these I'm moving for a friend, so let me know if you are in need.
Vince