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L C
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:21 pm    Post subject: Marcinkiewicz Flugelhorn Reply with quote

Does anyone have any experience playing a Marcinkiewicz Rembrandt flugel?

It's hard to locate one. I've heard recordings and really dig the sound.

Thanks.
LC


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Rembrandt model was technically a trumpet, although they did offer it in
Quarter tone and Extended range similar to the flugel line.
The only one I tried was the Mic Gillette model, very nice but I prefer the
Vermeer trumpet.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello,
at one time, Bill Ortiz (TH member) played Marc. horns
best
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yamahaguy wrote:
The Rembrandt model was technically a trumpet, although they did offer it in
Quarter tone and Extended range similar to the flugel line.
The only one I tried was the Mic Gillette model, very nice but I prefer the
Vermeer trumpet.


While there are Marcinkiewicz Rembrandt model trumpets, they also offer(ed) a Rembrandt flugelhorn. Not a trumpet.

From marcinkiewicz.com

"A departure from the classic flugelhorn, the Marcinkiewicz Rembrandt Flugel is one of Joe's greatest achievements. A .459" bore instrument, this flugelhorn has an incredibly dark, warm sound so long sought after. The horn's most distinctive feature is its red brass, 6-1/2" shepard's crook bell. Complimenting this is another one of the horn's unique designs in a shepard crook tuning slide. Using a slide for tuning vs the lead pipe allows for more even and consistent intonation. This revolutionary instrument truly reinvents the flugelhorn."
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I own one. It’s stunning in both appearance and in sound. The nicest flugel I’ve ever played. Impeccable intonation. Easy to play throughout the range of the horn. As stated by the previous poster, the bore is on the larger side at .459. Big sound! I’m fortunate to have it, since Joe stopped making horns.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-- Yamahaguy, JVL

Thanks for your responses.

LC
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-- 1B

Thanks for the feedback Jaimie.

A couple of follow ups:
1. What finish is your horn?
2. Have you tried any of the other finishes?
3. Mouthpiece considerations (including shank type)?
4. Have you played any Van Laar flugels? If so, comparative thoughts?

Have you run across any sellers?

Thanks!

LC
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the Rembrandt flugel. Love it. Extraordinarily nimble, great sound, excellent intonation (it has a tuning slide!). It was originally a raw brass horn, but the guy I got it from had light lacquer done. The only other one I'd played was Mic's, which was silver with gold highlights, and that was what convinced me to get one of my own if I could. Never played the vanLaar, though I've heard good things about it.
Now I'm after the Rembrandt trumpet - all I need is to find one, and then get a boatload of money.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-- dersham

Thanks for the valuable feedback.

How does your brass/lacquer horn compare in sound to Mic's silver? I would guess there are noticeable differences.

I've come across Rembrandt trumpets out there, even new ones in Europe and Japan I recall seeing at dealers. No flugels, though.

Best,

LC
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a Rembrandt trumpet on ebay right now, can't seem to copy the link but if you do a google search it will pop up. Says it's located in North Hollywood.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

L C wrote:
-- dersham

Thanks for the valuable feedback.

How does your brass/lacquer horn compare in sound to Mic's silver? I would guess there are noticeable differences.

I've come across Rembrandt trumpets out there, even new ones in Europe and Japan I recall seeing at dealers. No flugels, though.

Best,

LC


The difference in sound is really not very striking. Most of the differences was ... well, I keep mine cleaner than Mic kept his. Joe's design affects the sound a lot more than the materials.
My primary backup flugel is a Cousenon, and I think the Marc has a more ... consistent sound. Remember Schilke's experiments with bell materials, and his conclusion that material is not a primary driver? It's like that.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-- dersham

Very helpful. Thanks.

Best,

LC
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Marcinkiewicz Flugelhorn Reply with quote

L C wrote:
Does anyone have any experience playing a Marcinkiewicz Rembrandt flugel?

It's hard to locate one. I've heard recordings and really dig the sound.

Thanks.
LC


There was a TrumpetHerald member who used to post quite regularly. She played one of the Marcinkiewicz horns and loved them. I can't remember her name (I think she was in the Navy band), but there are probably some old posts around.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-- khedger

Thanks Keith.

LC
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