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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:29 pm    Post subject: SelfieSound Reply with quote

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Anyone here have thoughts on or experience with this product?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fifty-six bucks ?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve used it for several years, and don’t leave the house (for gigs) without it. The feedback is worth the money. Best gadget ever in my opinion. Gigs with bad monitoring, or really loud gigs are now piece of cake. Recommended.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks awesome. I really wish I had had one of those when I was playing with my old loud-as-heck afrobeat band!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A finite amount of sound is projected out of the bell. This device appears to be set up to reflect some of that sound back toward the player. So it would seem that this device sends more sound to the player at the expense of sending less sound to the listener.

Do I have the gist of this correct? If so, would this be a good thing in a performance? I suppose it would depend on individual performance objectives. That being said, I can see how this would benefit the player in practicing because it would give the player stronger feedback.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HERMOKIWI wrote:
A finite amount of sound is projected out of the bell. This device appears to be set up to reflect some of that sound back toward the player. So it would seem that this device sends more sound to the player at the expense of sending less sound to the listener.

Do I have the gist of this correct? If so, would this be a good thing in a performance? I suppose it would depend on individual performance objectives. That being said, I can see how this would benefit the player in practicing because it would give the player stronger feedback.


My impression is that in a performance environment this is mainly aimed at players with super-loud or otherwise taxing situations where you need some sound coming back at you to hear yourself. I would think you'd be playing into a mic anyway in that case. So the loss of a bit of sound would be trivial in that environment, anyway.

Again, I immediately thought of my super-loud funk and afrobeat gigs where you can't count on getting a decent monitor mix - or one at all, sometimes - so something like this would be a big help.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turkle wrote:
HERMOKIWI wrote:
A finite amount of sound is projected out of the bell. This device appears to be set up to reflect some of that sound back toward the player. So it would seem that this device sends more sound to the player at the expense of sending less sound to the listener.

Do I have the gist of this correct? If so, would this be a good thing in a performance? I suppose it would depend on individual performance objectives. That being said, I can see how this would benefit the player in practicing because it would give the player stronger feedback.


My impression is that in a performance environment this is mainly aimed at players with super-loud or otherwise taxing situations where you need some sound coming back at you to hear yourself. I would think you'd be playing into a mic anyway in that case. So the loss of a bit of sound would be trivial in that environment, anyway.

Again, I immediately thought of my super-loud funk and afrobeat gigs where you can't count on getting a decent monitor mix - or one at all, sometimes - so something like this would be a big help.


I agree that a microphone can solve the problem I suggested. Maybe use of a microphone is assumed in performance situations. If you have a microphone and a good sound person the concept is pretty cool. Like having a monitor built into your horn.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HERMOKIWI wrote:

My impression is that in a performance environment this is mainly aimed at players with super-loud or otherwise taxing situations where you need some sound coming back at you to hear yourself. I would think you'd be playing into a mic anyway in that case. So the loss of a bit of sound would be trivial in that environment, anyway.

Again, I immediately thought of my super-loud funk and afrobeat gigs where you can't count on getting a decent monitor mix - or one at all, sometimes - so something like this would be a big help.


And the combination of this and a mic should also moderate the tendency to overblow.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Microphones don't guarantee good feedback off the bell. I've used something similar before (a sound shield that fits around the mic, rather than attaching to the bell) and it can be a chop saver on a gig where the monitor mix is terrible or the band is super loud and there's no monitors... The principle is good enough, I reckon it'd be pretty cumbersome getting a mute or switching back and forth from flugel on a gig (I'm guessing it wouldn't integrate with many trumpet stands). Personally, if it's a gig that is that loud, I'd rather something on the mic/mic stand than my horn.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BraeGrimes wrote:
Microphones don't guarantee good feedback off the bell. I've used something similar before (a sound shield that fits around the mic, rather than attaching to the bell) and it can be a chop saver on a gig where the monitor mix is terrible or the band is super loud and there's no monitors... The principle is good enough, I reckon it'd be pretty cumbersome getting a mute or switching back and forth from flugel on a gig (I'm guessing it wouldn't integrate with many trumpet stands). Personally, if it's a gig that is that loud, I'd rather something on the mic/mic stand than my horn.


I've had sound guys complain about those sound shields that attach to the mic - they've said that they mess with the ports in the back of the mic that cause it to be a cardioid pattern, essentially turning it into an omni mic and destroying the sound. So this solution would potentially avoid that problem. Take it for what it's worth, I'm far from a microphone expert!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello
if you want to project more into the audience, you should regulate the selfie the closest from the bell, for the selfie's hole will match more to the bell's hole dimension, being at the closest distance too, of course
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:46 am    Post subject: Selfie Sound vs. Purdie Mute Reply with quote

Would this type of acoustic monitor effect the quality of the sound, like a purdie mute?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not at all
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