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elanois New Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:29 pm Post subject: SelfieSound |
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https://www.selfiesound.net
Anyone here have thoughts on or experience with this product? |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Fifty-six bucks ? _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Gonzalez Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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I’ve used it for several years, and don’t leave the house (for gigs) without it. The feedback is worth the money. Best gadget ever in my opinion. Gigs with bad monitoring, or really loud gigs are now piece of cake. Recommended. _________________ Van Laar OIRAM light I
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Turkle Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Looks awesome. I really wish I had had one of those when I was playing with my old loud-as-heck afrobeat band! _________________ Yamaha 8310Z trumpet
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HERMOKIWI Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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A finite amount of sound is projected out of the bell. This device appears to be set up to reflect some of that sound back toward the player. So it would seem that this device sends more sound to the player at the expense of sending less sound to the listener.
Do I have the gist of this correct? If so, would this be a good thing in a performance? I suppose it would depend on individual performance objectives. That being said, I can see how this would benefit the player in practicing because it would give the player stronger feedback. _________________ HERMOKIWI |
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Turkle Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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HERMOKIWI wrote: | A finite amount of sound is projected out of the bell. This device appears to be set up to reflect some of that sound back toward the player. So it would seem that this device sends more sound to the player at the expense of sending less sound to the listener.
Do I have the gist of this correct? If so, would this be a good thing in a performance? I suppose it would depend on individual performance objectives. That being said, I can see how this would benefit the player in practicing because it would give the player stronger feedback. |
My impression is that in a performance environment this is mainly aimed at players with super-loud or otherwise taxing situations where you need some sound coming back at you to hear yourself. I would think you'd be playing into a mic anyway in that case. So the loss of a bit of sound would be trivial in that environment, anyway.
Again, I immediately thought of my super-loud funk and afrobeat gigs where you can't count on getting a decent monitor mix - or one at all, sometimes - so something like this would be a big help. _________________ Yamaha 8310Z trumpet
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HERMOKIWI Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Turkle wrote: | HERMOKIWI wrote: | A finite amount of sound is projected out of the bell. This device appears to be set up to reflect some of that sound back toward the player. So it would seem that this device sends more sound to the player at the expense of sending less sound to the listener.
Do I have the gist of this correct? If so, would this be a good thing in a performance? I suppose it would depend on individual performance objectives. That being said, I can see how this would benefit the player in practicing because it would give the player stronger feedback. |
My impression is that in a performance environment this is mainly aimed at players with super-loud or otherwise taxing situations where you need some sound coming back at you to hear yourself. I would think you'd be playing into a mic anyway in that case. So the loss of a bit of sound would be trivial in that environment, anyway.
Again, I immediately thought of my super-loud funk and afrobeat gigs where you can't count on getting a decent monitor mix - or one at all, sometimes - so something like this would be a big help. |
I agree that a microphone can solve the problem I suggested. Maybe use of a microphone is assumed in performance situations. If you have a microphone and a good sound person the concept is pretty cool. Like having a monitor built into your horn. _________________ HERMOKIWI |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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HERMOKIWI wrote: |
My impression is that in a performance environment this is mainly aimed at players with super-loud or otherwise taxing situations where you need some sound coming back at you to hear yourself. I would think you'd be playing into a mic anyway in that case. So the loss of a bit of sound would be trivial in that environment, anyway.
Again, I immediately thought of my super-loud funk and afrobeat gigs where you can't count on getting a decent monitor mix - or one at all, sometimes - so something like this would be a big help. |
And the combination of this and a mic should also moderate the tendency to overblow. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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BraeGrimes Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Microphones don't guarantee good feedback off the bell. I've used something similar before (a sound shield that fits around the mic, rather than attaching to the bell) and it can be a chop saver on a gig where the monitor mix is terrible or the band is super loud and there's no monitors... The principle is good enough, I reckon it'd be pretty cumbersome getting a mute or switching back and forth from flugel on a gig (I'm guessing it wouldn't integrate with many trumpet stands). Personally, if it's a gig that is that loud, I'd rather something on the mic/mic stand than my horn. |
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Turkle Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:15 am Post subject: |
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BraeGrimes wrote: | Microphones don't guarantee good feedback off the bell. I've used something similar before (a sound shield that fits around the mic, rather than attaching to the bell) and it can be a chop saver on a gig where the monitor mix is terrible or the band is super loud and there's no monitors... The principle is good enough, I reckon it'd be pretty cumbersome getting a mute or switching back and forth from flugel on a gig (I'm guessing it wouldn't integrate with many trumpet stands). Personally, if it's a gig that is that loud, I'd rather something on the mic/mic stand than my horn. |
I've had sound guys complain about those sound shields that attach to the mic - they've said that they mess with the ports in the back of the mic that cause it to be a cardioid pattern, essentially turning it into an omni mic and destroying the sound. So this solution would potentially avoid that problem. Take it for what it's worth, I'm far from a microphone expert! _________________ Yamaha 8310Z trumpet
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JVL Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:31 am Post subject: |
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hello
if you want to project more into the audience, you should regulate the selfie the closest from the bell, for the selfie's hole will match more to the bell's hole dimension, being at the closest distance too, of course |
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Didymus Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:46 am Post subject: Selfie Sound vs. Purdie Mute |
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Would this type of acoustic monitor effect the quality of the sound, like a purdie mute? _________________ Enjoy the journey. |
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JVL Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:17 am Post subject: |
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not at all |
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