Carol Brass 5000 - Change horn / Change mouthpiece

[jicetp]

Hi everyone

I have lately sold my Wild Thing trumpet.

Few weeks ago, I had this gig to play Lead, and I pulled out my CarolBrass 5000 with the same mouthpiece I used with my Wild Thing ( Warburton 3SV / H backbore ).

I was surprised the sound wasn't as cutting through as with the Wild Thing.

So, I am now in the search of my new lead mouthpiece, at least the variation of my (old) set-up that could work with the CB.


So, I have two questions :

- what is the physics behind the change of horn that make some mouthpiece combination work or not - and how to fine tune it ?

- for those of you playing the CB, which mouthpiece do you use ?

Thanks

JiCe

[JVL]

hello
depends on the "openess" of the horn, the gap etc.
From what i understand from your post, a tighter bb could suit
best

[adagiotrumpet]

Since you are using the Warburton, try a KT backbore. I used a Warburton 3ES for years and after trying various backbores, I found the KT to be the best for playing lead and cutting through.

[NevadaBigHorn]

The NY backbore will definitely give you that sizzle.
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[brassmusician]

Using a schilke 11a with my carol-5000, plus the D shaped slide. Enjoying it for lead, jazz combo etc.
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[blasticore]

(I've played CarolBrass horns for almost 10 years)

The Wild Thing is a much more open horn than the CarolBrass 5000 series by specs. The 5000-YST has a smaller bell flare than the 5000YLT. I typically play outside a lot, so I came to appreciate the larger 72-style bell flare for broadness of sound. The YST bell was amazing on a microphone, however.

The Wild Thing bell is a larger flare, which is closer to the YLT bell than it is to the YST bell.

I ended up on a 7770-YLT, which is essentially the 5000-YLT, with no brace on the tuning slide, and a larger leadpipe flare. I got more sound out of it, with less repercussions of playing irresponsibly outdoors.

I'm not a CarolBrass dealer, but I can point you through some of the stuff with their instruments if you want. I've owned about 6 or 7 of them at this point - only because I absolutely destroyed them playing in theme parks. There are 2 CarolBrass dealers in my area too, which would be happy to talk to you about stuff. If it ends up being a simple thing as swapping out a leadpipe, that's easy enough to do. My current CarolBrass Bb is on its 2nd bell, and 5th leadpipe (again, theme park accidents).
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