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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2020 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgaiii wrote:
Hi Jim. This one also sounded great. Still love the sound you get on the Bb. Even after listening twice, I could not find the missed accidental -- could not just pick it out by ear since I do not have the sheet music. Tells us something about performance and our perfectionism, doesn't it? Or perhaps just my knowledge of Blazhevich. What collection is this one from?


http://www.wwjdo.com/_sites/sheetmusic/Blazhevich_Lichtmann.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2riRWKdHidJh8sbhH-e1zm9axIrCpAafIffWe6p71_t8ZdXJNbanDUstg
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just caught up with the latest few posts.

Thoroughly enjoyed listening to Blazhevich Etude #44 ... hauntingly mystical made all the more enjoyable by being able to follow the music score.

Usually I reckon the music you play, Jim, is way beyond my level, but after listening to you play this piece, the rate of "knots" that the music "travels" at, and the look of the music dots and squiggles (notation) on the page, I reckon I just might print off this etude and "'av a go" notwithstanding that high C!

This "shutdown" for Covid-19 has brought out a few (like very few) positives and your "safety cell" performances is one of the few.

Thanks for sharing your practise sessions and this music with us on TrumpetHerald.

BTW I think I noticed that the way you ended each set of slurred notes was very casual, even for the dotted crotchet slurred to the quaver. From my piano lessons of years ago I've understood that the second note of the slurred set is released like a slow staccato, and similar for the end note of a bracket of notes.

A couple of questions:
Have I remembered my music theory correctly? OR
Is the treatment of notation such as this different for trumpet music? OR
Have you engaged in a few liberties, as I tend to do with music timing when attempting to be expressive in my piano playing?

My questions arise from my attempts at playing music from Sigmund Hering's 40 Progressive Etudes that has similar slurring notation to that which I've attempted to describe above.

Thanks again for "allowing" us into your practise studio/room. I'll look forward to reading your response to the Qs.
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re Episode #47

Expanding intervals ... great to listen to. Sure lets the listener know where they are "at" with their trumpet skills!

I've been introduced to them by the AMEB Grade 5 trumpet exam requirements. The Eb major exercise ... that's almost OK. The next exercise in this street is A major! Heaps more work required ... and then the Grade 6 requirements include E major and Ab major. Neither of the G6 exercises should be too difficult ONCE the G5 ones are mastered. Therein lies my problem.

You've left us something to which we can attempt to aspire. (I think my problem is similar to many others, viz, we want to achieve the same or similar results of the top trumpet players without having put in the hours, days, weeks, months and years of toil, dedication and practise that provides the dexterity and skill the professionals demonstrate.

Thanks again for your efforts.
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am definitely taking some liberties with the time. Some of this is to try to make what would just be a technical exercise musical or interesting, and another reason is that I’m trying to make the breathing, or need to, a little less obvious by adjusting the tempo around those gaps. Some attempts are more successful than others. :-/
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrClean wrote:


http://www.wwjdo.com/_sites/sheetmusic/Blazhevich_Lichtmann.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2riRWKdHidJh8sbhH-e1zm9axIrCpAafIffWe6p71_t8ZdXJNbanDUstg


Thank you. I had the Russian one, but not this one.

47 was again numbing to the lips just listening. I think your musical approach, your approach to the breathing, etc., are great. They get you closer to the real goal which is music. You are not playing tennis without the net, but you are taking it beyond playing only the exercise. My feeling is that just playing the exercise metronomically (if there is such a word), would be much easier for you. Therein lies the challenge.
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Episode #48

https://youtu.be/5tg88kFIyqA

Working here on fluidity, intonation, avoiding interval compression on grace notes (a common theme you see in my practice), and playing in an awkward key - C#/a#. Also, trying to make it sound more musical than difficult/technical, which is always the goal.
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrClean wrote:
I am definitely taking some liberties with the time. Some of this is to try to make what would just be a technical exercise musical or interesting, and another reason is that I’m trying to make the breathing, or need to, a little less obvious by adjusting the tempo around those gaps. Some attempts are more successful than others. :-/


G'day again ...

Thank you for your explanation. I won't feel nearly so bad when my piano teacher friend (not teacher) picks me up when I play the music how I feel it rather than how it is counted out. (I keep telling her [she is a little more senior than I am] that I can't count! Sometimes it works. )
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don’t get to do it on the job...
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That (#48 ) was really quite magnificent. Listened to it once just for the sound and then followed the music. Very nice touch to the grace notes and the melodic contours.

"I don’t get to do it on the job..."
An orchestral player once said in a discussion of such things: Yes, but I get paid to be a metronome.

"playing in an awkward key - C#/a#"
I am glad to hear that even someone of your skill level and experience still says things like this. I guess that is why trumpets come in all those keys (aside from the historical influences). We have heard you play Bb and C trumpets, are you going to treat us to any others?
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Episode #49

https://youtu.be/_Zs0zAG2EXY

Strepitoso indeed. Going for hyper-crisp, aggressive articulation here, and not losing the clarity when the dynamic drops. As always, focusing on consistent centers for maximum focus and pop.
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim, as usual great work. When I saw your comment about strepitoso, I though you were really going to go outside of your great melodious playing, but instead you managed to hold the two together nicely. It would be interesting to hear you take this one even more aggressively.
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Episode #50

https://youtu.be/bf0ly2GFSeI

Slurs. Awkward slurs in all shapes sizes and directions. Also, my Bb does not like the key of Ab (Gb), so I had to be very careful every time I slurred through 2nd space Ab - very unstable note in this setting.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one was very interesting Jim. How many takes did you do on it? It seems that more than the slurs, the returns/resets are a place to stumble. Nice work on a difficult one.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgaiii wrote:
This one was very interesting Jim. How many takes did you do on it? It seems that more than the slurs, the returns/resets are a place to stumble. Nice work on a difficult one.


I actually don't remember (I probably did it almost two weeks ago), but more than I care to admit. Most of the takes were fine, but then I would crack a note badly, or the low stuff before the recap would get too wobbly. The one I posted was a little loose there, too, but at some point you just have to say "enough". Each take sounds a little more grainy, a little less pure.
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Episode #51

https://youtu.be/myy_s4eUxWk

Endurance is certainly a factor in this one. Also, trying to stay up on the second 16th notes before the leaps was a big challenge. This take is OK, but I was more successful on another take, which was cleaner overall. However, as I was slapping the intro and closing on it for the video, I noted there was a wrong note in that take, so I went with this one. I took multiple complete takes just to try to decide on what king of articulation to use - I went from brick-like to very legato: this one is somewhere in-between.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for these....
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Episode #52

https://youtu.be/d4KrKAugNWw

The hardest part of this one was phrasing, trying to find a way to ebb and flow without coming off as kitschy. Although I obviously play Brahms, I haven't played that much of it, and when I do, the trumpets rarely have lyrical melodies. It's not in my blood, and I'm sure there was much more to be mined from this one. I also focused on making as beautiful a sound as I could with just a touch of spin, connection, control.
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Episode 51

Late getting to this one -- out building fence all day!
Nice work. I thought the pacing and note duration worked well.
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Episode #51

https://youtu.be/myy_s4eUxWk

Endurance is certainly a factor in this one. Also, trying to stay up on the second 16th notes before the leaps was a big challenge. This take is OK, but I was more successful on another take, which was cleaner overall. However, as I was slapping the intro and closing on it for the video, I noted there was a wrong note in that take, so I went with this one. I took multiple complete takes just to try to decide on what kind of articulation to use - I went from brick-like to very legato: this one is somewhere in-between.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No 52:

You were highly successful in your approach. Nice sound on the Bb, fitting for the etude. I enjoyed this one. I bet that your wife did not need the extra wine when you started playing this one.
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