Cornet third valve slide ring?

olds1959special · Regular Member Joined: 06 May 2020 Posts: 11

I brought my cornet to my tech and he asked if I need a ring for the third valve slide. Do I need this?

etc-etc · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 6185

For which model of cornet? Did it have a third slide ring that got broken off? Was it originally designed with a third slide with a ring?

Pictures would help.

Dennis78 · Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:52 am Post subject:

Long ago some horns had some purely for holding that otherwise did nothing. If you’re comfortable without out it and it’s not OE then you don’t need it
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jondrowjf@gmail.com · Heavyweight Member Joined: 15 Jul 2016 Posts: 666

Your cornet must be a pre - 1950s model
If you don't have a third slide ring, you will have to lip the note. It is not a hard repair. So the first slide is lacking a 1st slide ring too?
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nieuwguyski · Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 5:46 pm Post subject:

The OP could be talking about an Olds Ambassador cornet missing its adjustable third-slide ring. We just don't know until he offers more information.
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olds1959special · Regular Member Joined: 06 May 2020 Posts: 11

It's a 1959 Olds Special L-5 large bore cornet - I'll post a picture when I get it back from the tech.

jondrowjf@gmail.com · Heavyweight Member Joined: 15 Jul 2016 Posts: 666

Will you adding a 3rd slide adjustable ring or fixed ring?
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jondrowjf@gmail.com · Heavyweight Member Joined: 15 Jul 2016 Posts: 666

I was looking online and saw a Olds Special cornet. It had a 1st slide saddle ring and a 3rd slide adjustable ring. Curious what type of ring you are having installed
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darksmoke · Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 8:12 pm Post subject:

If it's an older cornet, they all came without them and the third valve slide is a little longer compared to modern horns to make up for the lack of being able to move it manually and adjust the pitch. If this is the case, it would probably be a bad idea to get one for moving it and the sole purpose would be just for holding modernly.
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adc · Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 4:11 pm Post subject:

My strad 184 has a ring and I wish it didn't. It restrains the way you hold the horn. I may get it removed some day.
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walldaja · Regular Member Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 71

The question that needs to be asked is, "does the cornet play the low D and C# in tune or noticeably sharp?" If the cornet plays in tune without the need to adjust the third slide you probably don't need the ring. If the horn is obviously sharp on those two notes, you do need to adjust with either the third valve slide (preferred) or first valve slide (optional).

I find it hard for me to use my cornet's third valve slide due to the angle of my wrist--works fine on a trumpet but not a short cornet. On cornet, I adjust with the first valve slide.
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cheiden · Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 11:26 am Post subject:

harryjamesworstnightmare · Veteran Member Joined: 04 Mar 2010 Posts: 167

Somebody just listed an Olds 3rd slide ring in the Marketplace. In actuality, your third valve slide probably doesn't move easily enough to make use of one for tuning purposes. If it did you would need a slide stop to keep it from falling out. On those older cornets it's usually a place holder for a music lyre or a convenient place to help hold the instrument. In other words, if you have to have it, there is one available. But you don't need it.
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homebilly · Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 7:43 am Post subject:

$45 bucks is almost what i paid for my last Ambassador......WITH the ring
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