Warburton 5S options?

juanc · Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 11:18 am Post subject: Warburton 5S options?

Hello all,
I've played a 5S for a few years now, have a few backbores too, but for some reason I don't feel like I have the sound I want in all registers, I know this is a shallow top but Im looking for something that give me a little more sound in the middle register without losing the "ease" of a shallow mpc in the high register. I'm looking for more options like the GR 65S but I haven't tried this mouthpiece yet, any suggestions?
Thanks!!!
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Christian K. Peters · Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 1:57 pm Post subject: Warburton 5S options

Hello,
I see you already have a 5MC. You could try a 5M or 5MV or 5SV. Personally I can not play the shallower pieces unless I am playing piccolo. I do have those pieces along with 5MD, 5D, 5XD and a 5MBC. They all have their place on any given day with any given horn. You might also try a Schilke 13B. I play a 14B for big band stuff and have been working with a 14, to get a bigger sound. Pretty sure you don't want to go there. A Bach 3C might also be an option. Also check gap of mp to venturi. About 1/8th-3/16th" Works best for me, give or take.
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juanc · Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 4:20 pm Post subject:

I have tried them all (M,SV etc.). The 5MC its like my "classical piece". I don't know about Schilke, never played one before. I was asking about GR because I had one few years ago and really like the sound and projection but it was too large for me (66 series),
Thanks for your suggestions!!
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SatchmoGillespie · Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 7:19 pm Post subject:

Check out jim new. He was the mpc man for Kanstul and has had his own shop for some time. Give him an idea of what you want and he could take the 5S scan and modify it to your desired specifications.

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BudBix · Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 1:33 pm Post subject:

You have to decide where the right compromise is. A deeper cup will take more effort.

Maybe a 5M with a slightly smaller backbore? A 4M top and Q backbore is the best combo for me. I've gotten through a couple of long Mardi Gras parades on that setup.

For GR I would contact them directly. They have always responded to me quickly and a little back and forth can narrow down what to try. That said you probably want to look at the 65 series.

Rapier232 · Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 9:33 pm Post subject:

Have you tried a Smith-Watkins Mike Lovatt mouthpiece? I changed from Warburton to them a few years ago.
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juanc · Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 10:22 am Post subject:

Thanks for all your replies!! I have heard a lot of good things about Patrick mouthpieces, in my case probably I would try their 81M, anybody has experience with this piece? Thanks!!
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JLandressBrassCustServ. · Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 4:54 pm Post subject:

Hi Juanc,

We LOVE both the Patrick 81M and Warburton 5S, both great pieces for the right player. The Patrick will work perfectly out of the box on your horn... I see you are playing a Yamaha 6310s... what backbore are you currently using on your warburton set up? Sometimes just a backbore switch will help dial-in the sound you are looking for.
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Bogey Factory · Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:46 pm Post subject:

I played the 5s for a while with the KT, Q, Qm, 5, and 6 backbores. I think the Bach 7d might be worth looking at. If I remember correctly it's pretty close in diameter. Probably a rounder rim though. I've since gone narrower with Jim New's 3 series Al Cass pieces but I remember liking the 7d.
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gwood66 · Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 7:19 am Post subject:

I love my GR 66MS. I think it is great all around. First mouthpiece that made me say "WOW" the first time I played it. I just may have been the proverbial blind pig that found an acorn but you may want to try a 65MS as well. Alex Yates (Atlanta) and Charlie Melk (Griffin GA) are the closest GR consultants. You should be able to reach them through the GR website. As with all mouthpiece suggestions over the internet, your mileage may vary.

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juanc · Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 4:10 pm Post subject:

Thank you guys for all your suggestions!! I play my 5S with a 5 backbore and the 5MC with a 6, simple as that!!

I'm considering to get an 81M with their commercial backbore as suggested by Steve Patrick, he actually said is best the 2 piece combination in their commercial line than the 1 one piece.
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B. Scriver · Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:25 am Post subject:

We have many customers who came from Warburton 5 series to GR 65 Series. If you liked your 66S but found the diameter to be a bit big for you, 65S is the logical choice.
Plus, Alex Yates is no longer a part of the GR team.
If there are no dealers near you, email me for info on where you may find a GR 65S to try.

Brian Scriver
www.grmouthpieces.com

plp · Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 11:26 pm Post subject:

juanc · Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:18 am Post subject:

The winner is....Patrick 81M!!! I coupled this top with their commercial backbore and it's a great match. I've never try a Patrick rim, most comfortable thing I ever play!! And the sound and ease of tone is superb, highly recommended folks!!
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