• FAQ  • Search  • Memberlist  • Usergroups   • Register   • Profile  • Log in to check your private messages  • Log in 

Harry James?


Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Performers
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Robert P
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 28 Feb 2013
Posts: 1726

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:52 am    Post subject: Re: Harryat 55 Reply with quote

khedger wrote:
rothman wrote:
Tony Scodwell wrote:

No question he drank heavily, Smirnoff red label being his choice. He smoked somewhat but not packs a day. At the age of 55 he was still playing at the Harry James level of prior years and not until two years before he died did his playing suffer. Living to 67 was certainly not long enough but I spoke with him a week prior to his death and he said he wouldn't have changed a thing.


I heard Jerome Callet attribute his throat cancer to 2 packs a day. Glad to hear it was less than 2....or under a pack. You didn't mention the denture, but generally speaking, performance is going to change under that circumstance. How many bottles, fifths, he consumed in a day in not known. Perhaps he was a 'functioning alcoholic' along with a cast iron constitution. But he doesn't impress me as the same level of player at 55 that he was at 25. .


Not to be argumentative, and your point is well taken, but I don't think there are many monster players who at 55 play like they did when they were 25.
Am I wrong?

keith

Doc in his mid-50's I believe was a stronger player than he was in his mid-20's and he was awesome in his mid-20's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6wUZwuSIxM
_________________
GoFundMe for CHASE member Ted Piercefield

https://www.gofundme.com/f/teeth-for-ted-piercefield
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
peanuts56
Veteran Member


Joined: 02 Jan 2011
Posts: 455

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Growing up in the 60's and 70's I didn't listen to Harry at all. I guess I felt his stuff was too corny. Sometime in the mid 70's I heard him on either Mike Douglas or Merv Griffin, I can't remember which.
He was really impressive and if he was over the hill I couldn't tell. He had to be around 60 at the time. He played the crap out of the horn whenever I heard him. I'll agree that he looked way older than most 60 somethings. I'm 64 and look way younger than Harry did at that age. Life on the road is hard and Harry's vices aged him I would imagine.
Someone mentioned Doc sounding better in his 50's than his 20's. Doc didn't spend near as much time on the road. He slept in his own bed most nights during the Carson years instead of riding all night on a bus. He was able to establish a regular practice routine and from what I've heard he's still practices a ton. That helps plus I've read he exercises regularly.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
rothman
Veteran Member


Joined: 23 Jan 2014
Posts: 211

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:46 am    Post subject: Re: Harry at 55 Reply with quote

khedger wrote:

Not to be argumentative, and your point is well taken, but I don't think there are many monster players who at 55 play like they did when they were 25.
Am I wrong?
keith


Fair statement. Not many elevated their playing into their 50's, though Doc may be one of them. His range seemed to improve as he got older. Otoh, when you hear a few of his Command recordings, that just started his Lp issues, it is some of his finest playing imo.

What can be said about André other than doing something like this.. in the mature stage of his career. Or it's possible they had better mics, equipment than previously.


Link


Last edited by rothman on Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:37 am; edited 3 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
blbaumgarn
Veteran Member


Joined: 26 Jul 2017
Posts: 414

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:35 am    Post subject: Harry James Reply with quote

I grew up in the 60s and between my dad, an uncle, and one of dad's friends they kept me supplied with hifi and then stereo records of trumpet players or bands that they (and I )liked. I got a couple by Harry James. I don't know what people consider dated. I am sure Bix Beiderbeck would sound dated in 2020, too, but you could fill a big hall with players who would pay handsomely to hear him play again. I appreciate everything everybody contributed. Those who heard him play in person realize what they saw and heard.
_________________
"There are two sides to a trumpeter's personality,
there is one that lives to lay waste to woodwinds and strings, leaving them lie blue and lifeless along a swath of destruction that is a
trumpeter's fury-then there is the dark side!" Irving Bush
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Performers All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3
Page 3 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group