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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:06 am    Post subject: Tips for preventing lacquer wear Reply with quote

Any tips to prevent lacquer wear on your trumpet? Every horn I've owned the lacquer wears out where my hand holds the instrument. I imagine wiping it down with a shammy after each use would help, but do people actually do that?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy a plated instrument, the fact is lacquer will wear and is not a permanent finish. Wiping it down after each session will help.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lacquer can last a really long time. If your hands eat the lacquer off, then avoid touching with you hands. That would mean wrap the casing with wide Velcro strips, loosely, and you will get most of the contact points that way. Where you right thumb and pinky go, it works to put some thick coating of fingernail polish right where the contact points are. Can’t see it and it works great. You can read-apply whenever you think you need to. Same with where your finger goes through the ring. I do wipe my horns with a rag after every gig.. it is easy.

Another area of wear is on the bell crook if you hold it there when not playing, and also the back of the crook where spit lands from your embouchure maybe. Wipe that area off too. If it seems like a bother to do these things, then lacquer wear is not much of an issue for you
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or, of course, you could always wear those white gloves.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lacquer can last a really long time. If your hands eat the lacquer off, then avoid touching with you hands. That would mean wrap the casing with wide Velcro strips, loosely, and you will get most of the contact points that way. Where you right thumb and pinky go, it works to put some thick coating of fingernail polish right where the contact points are. Can’t see it and it works great. You can read-apply whenever you think you need to. Same with where your finger goes through the ring. I do wipe my horns with a rag after every gig.. it is easy.

Another area of wear is on the bell crook if you hold it there when not playing, and also the back of the crook where spit lands from your embouchure maybe. Wipe that area off too. If it seems like a bother to do these things, then lacquer wear is not much of an issue for you
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use a handkerchief to hold the horn. Louis Armstrong did:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Tips for preventing lacquer wear Reply with quote

Jaw04 wrote:
Any tips to prevent lacquer wear on your trumpet? Every horn I've owned the lacquer wears out where my hand holds the instrument. I imagine wiping it down with a shammy after each use would help, but do people actually do that?


It takes about 60 seconds to wipe the horn down at the end of the day. I wear a cotton gardening glove to hold the horn and wipe it down with a microfiber cloth from Monster. Two of my horns are silver, one is lacquer. The lacquer horn is hold and I got it with a lot of wear. It hasn't gotten any worse. The silver horns look pristine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lipshurt wrote:
Lacquer can last a really long time. If your hands eat the lacquer off, then avoid touching with you hands. That would mean wrap the casing with wide Velcro strips, loosely, and you will get most of the contact points that way. Where you right thumb and pinky go, it works to put some thick coating of fingernail polish right where the contact points are. Can’t see it and it works great. You can read-apply whenever you think you need to. Same with where your finger goes through the ring. I do wipe my horns with a rag after every gig.. it is easy.

Another area of wear is on the bell crook if you hold it there when not playing, and also the back of the crook where spit lands from your embouchure maybe. Wipe that area off too. If it seems like a bother to do these things, then lacquer wear is not much of an issue for you
How does the Velcro tip work? Wouldn’t the hooks either be uncomfortable on the skin or abrasive on the lacquer?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To brighten and protect lacquered instruments we spritz with Pledge furniture wax and wipe down. In our shop we use the fragrance free Johnson Shine Up available in bulk. Same great shine without the lemon scent, but frankly some instruments might benefit from the pleasant smell. 😉
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To brighten and protect lacquered instruments we spritz with Pledge furniture wax and wipe down. In our shop we use the fragrance free Johnson Shine Up available in bulk. Same great shine without the lemon scent, but frankly some instruments might benefit from the pleasant smell. 😉

I hope this is helpful.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clear nail polish.

Apply clear nail polish on the areas where you have regular skin contact with your horn. On some areas I might put on two coats.

I also do this on some areas of my silver horns.

Lasts a long time, too. You will need to periodically reapply.

Just be sure to let it completely dry before putting it in a case.

I've been doing it for years. Works really well. Joe Marcinkiewicz is who told me about it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carnauba wax
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually advise people to get a small spray bottle and fill it w/rubbing (isopropyl) alcohol. At the end of the playing for the day, use a soft cloth w/a little alcohol on it and remove all fingerprints, drip marks, etc.
Should lengthen the lacquer's life, also is a good way to sanitize the surface.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me see if I understand right. If I have a lacquered horn, the best way to protect it is a periodic spray-down with Pledge furniture wax?

Wouldn't it get a wax build up, as well as getting the spray leaked into the slides? Thanks, K -
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A formerly local tech would spray his laquered Yamaha horn with a 50/50 alcohol/water spray after rehearsals.

I would use a high-end leather wrap on my lacquered horns. Can't remember the brand, but it came highly recommended here on TH.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jerry wrote:
A formerly local tech would spray his laquered Yamaha horn with a 50/50 alcohol/water spray after rehearsals.

I would use a high-end leather wrap on my lacquered horns. Can't remember the brand, but it came highly recommended here on TH.

Wraps have been controversial at times on here. Some find they promote finish issues since they can trap moisture and dirt under them.

The fact they are controversial means people have differing experiences, both positive and negative.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly as posted above. The white gloves
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:
Let me see if I understand right. If I have a lacquered horn, the best way to protect it is a periodic spray-down with Pledge furniture wax?

Wouldn't it get a wax build up, as well as getting the spray leaked into the slides? Thanks, K -


We've used Pledge in the shop for years and it doesn't seem to build up. It does contain solvents, so we first spray the Pledge on a lint free rag and wait a few seconds for the solvents to dissipate.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the reasons people seem to like unlacquered horns is that there is no extra coating to inhibit the resonating of the brass.

But, to protect the unlacquered horn, there are suggestions to use both nail polish and car wax.

(both of which, applied by hand, are undoubtedly thicker than any factory applied lacquer)

Lol.

- note: this is not a knock on those suggestions, I'm sure they work. It's just a bit amusing...
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