Well I now have one of each horn in my arsenal so I thought it'd be fun to do a blindfold test with the two horns. So below is a video with me playing each horn in three different "rounds" (ballad, blues, unaccompanied). So in each round try to guess which horn is which in the survey above and I'll post the reveal video in a few days. I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out, happy guessing!
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:57 am Post subject:
BTW, for the recording I did not use any EQ, reverb, effects, etc. I recorded these clips using 3 mics. A Cascade Fat head ribbon, a MXL 144r ribbon (off screen), and my interface (Zoom R24) has 2 built in condensers that I recorded as a stereo pair (also just off screen). The only adjustments I made to the audio was the volume levels of the various mics, and I used the same volume levels for all of the recorded examples.
I also used my early Mt. Vernon 6C throughout on both horns. _________________ "Run towards your problems, not from them"
Powell Custom Trumpet
1956 Martin Committee Deluxe
1950/60's Couesnon Monopole Flugel
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:30 pm Post subject:
Well I liked 2-1-1
I didn't go for which horn I thought it was, just for which sound I preferred. I have to admit, though, that I really was conflicted on #3. Nice playing, BTW. I really wanted to keep listening, no matter which you played. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:21 pm Post subject:
Craigtrumpet - thanks for the blind test. BTW, nice sound on both horns. My guess below. Where I denoted Deluxe, to me, the sound was slightly brighter. Are the horns the same bore?
Ron
Round 1 - Horn #1 = Standard, Horn #2 = Deluxe
Round 2 - Horn #1 = Deluxe, Horn #2 = Standard
Round 3 - Horn #1 = Standard, Horn #2 = Deluxe _________________ Martin Committee #2 1954
Leblanc “Al Hirt” Model 1966
Olds Custom Crafted Ultra Sonic 1974
Edwards Gen II 2014
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:35 pm Post subject:
Ronnman wrote:
Craigtrumpet - thanks for the blind test. BTW, nice sound on both horns. My guess below. Where I denoted Deluxe, to me, the sound was slightly brighter. Are the horns the same bore?
Ron
Hey Ron! Yup, both are medium bore (#2) horns. I don’t have large bore Committee type money hahahah _________________ "Run towards your problems, not from them"
Powell Custom Trumpet
1956 Martin Committee Deluxe
1950/60's Couesnon Monopole Flugel
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:59 pm Post subject:
Jaw04 wrote:
I think I like 2 1 2. Would be interested to hear how they sound with a different mic. Ribbons tend to tone down the highs.
Agreed about the ribbons. I did have 2 condensers (from Zoom, recorded as a stereo pair) just underneath my bell to try to capture some of the highs, but I do need to invest in a decent condenser or at least a dynamic mic like an SM-57, somehow I don’t have one of those yet which is kind of crazy. _________________ "Run towards your problems, not from them"
Powell Custom Trumpet
1956 Martin Committee Deluxe
1950/60's Couesnon Monopole Flugel
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:47 am Post subject:
Very interesting!
Could this be reformed to a survey-type thread?
Something like this:
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1. R1: (S,D); R2: (S,D); R3: (S,D)
2. R1: (S,D); R2: (S,D); R3: (D,S)
3. R1: (S,D); R2: (D,S); R3: (S,D)
...
...
8. R1: (D,S); R2: (D,S); R3: (D,S)
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I guess this could draw more participation.
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:04 am Post subject:
fblues wrote:
Very interesting!
Could this be reformed to a survey-type thread?
Something like this:
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1. R1: (S,D); R2: (S,D); R3: (S,D)
2. R1: (S,D); R2: (S,D); R3: (D,S)
3. R1: (S,D); R2: (D,S); R3: (S,D)
...
...
8. R1: (D,S); R2: (D,S); R3: (D,S)
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I guess this could draw more participation.
I thought about that but I couldn't figure out how to create the survey. I didn't see any kind of option when creating the post. Let me mess with it.
EDIT: Hey, I figured it out! Thanks for the suggestion
For the TH'ers who chimed in above, can you go ahead and click your guess on the new survey I just put in at the top of this thread? Thanks all! _________________ "Run towards your problems, not from them"
Powell Custom Trumpet
1956 Martin Committee Deluxe
1950/60's Couesnon Monopole Flugel
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:10 am Post subject:
Where’s all the Martin Committee owners? BTT for others to participate. I certainly thought there would be more participation.
Ron _________________ Martin Committee #2 1954
Leblanc “Al Hirt” Model 1966
Olds Custom Crafted Ultra Sonic 1974
Edwards Gen II 2014
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:17 am Post subject:
I prefer horns 1,2,1 and think that they are the same horns. If I were to guess, and that is all it is, I would say they were the Standard. I am not a knowledgeable Martin guy and have only played the Deluxe. _________________ Steve Smith
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:14 am Post subject:
Just a heads up everybody, today will be the last chance to cast your vote for the blindfold test. I'll post the reveal video tomorrow afternoon, so get those votes in.
Right now there are only 10 votes, please help me get those numbers up TH brethren! Thanks all! _________________ "Run towards your problems, not from them"
Powell Custom Trumpet
1956 Martin Committee Deluxe
1950/60's Couesnon Monopole Flugel
Just a heads up everybody, today will be the last chance to cast your vote for the blindfold test. I'll post the reveal video tomorrow afternoon, so get those votes in.
Right now there are only 10 votes, please help me get those numbers up TH brethren! Thanks all!
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...this has GOT to be it! _________________ Brian A. Douglas
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:36 am Post subject:
shofarguy wrote:
If there was ever an invitation to get one's self banned, or a post deleted...
...this has GOT to be it!
I surely wasn't meaning to cross any boundaries, did I break a rule or something?
I figured there might be some people wondering about the horns so I was just giving a heads up that I'll post it tomorrow. _________________ "Run towards your problems, not from them"
Powell Custom Trumpet
1956 Martin Committee Deluxe
1950/60's Couesnon Monopole Flugel
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:28 am Post subject:
I must've missed something. I don't see anything offensive, at all. Did I overlook something? _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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