Lung/wind developer?

kehaulani · Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:15 pm Post subject: Lung/wind developer?

I've had an operation on my lungs that has affixed them to the surrounding tissues. It has resulted in shorter breath.

Additionally, I have had a couple of strokes and I think that has affected my breathing, too.

Last but not least, I'm both in a wheelchair an am quarantined, so my ability to get out and do some meaningful exercise is next to nil.

So, I am looking for a good lung/wind apparatus that I could use. Not looking for anything fancy. I'm the kind f Martial Artist who is (was) used to using fundamental things for strength development. And I'm cheap and not impressed by micro-analysing aspects of playing. I just want a simple wind/strength device that, frankly, would replace more strenuous exercise.

I've searches and wasn't successful. Thanks.
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thsd · Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:52 pm Post subject:

I have not tried this, but it looks like it could help:

https://www.amazon.com/Expand-A-Lung-Breathing-Fitness-Exerciser/dp/B00JWTRA5I/ref=pd_bxgy_img_3/144-8828353-2078858?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00JWTRA5I&pd_rd_r=111bf52d-c800-432f-8006-7f154eb7010e&pd_rd_w=8mcuU&pd_rd_wg=zLZqL&pf_rd_p=ce6c479b-ef53-49a6-845b-bbbf35c28dd3&pf_rd_r=HKWDZ1J9DH6TGTCQ8CNA&psc=1&refRID=HKWDZ1J9DH6TGTCQ8CNA

There are other similar products at the link, but this is reasonably priced and has great reviews.

jmtrumpet · Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:55 pm Post subject:

I've used one of these in the past and found it super helpful. A few Chicago-school teachers I've studied with encouraged it; it's also pretty inexpensive, which is a nice bonus.

https://www.vitalitymedical.com/hudson-rci-voldyne-5000-volumetric-exerciser-spirometer.html?network=g&device=c&keyword=&campaign=896714081&adgroup=pla-342756050388&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpNr4BRDYARIsAADIx9yrmM0sCbSomXVcWdlIqynp-9NIXhvwR_XWFTLhzw3bTWuE39kSfzsaAkB4EALw_wcB
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TrumpetMD · Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:12 pm Post subject:

mike ansberry · Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:28 pm Post subject:

Looks like you've received some informative posts. This is a little off topic, but have you considered doing the Claude Gordon breathing exercises? I did them for years and it gave me a lot of power. I keep telling myself I need to go back to them to see if I can recover some of what asthma has taken from me, but I have yet to do it.
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Jeff_Purtle · Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:12 am Post subject:

Ditto on the Claude Gordon breathing exercises. I've had a couple students in wheel chairs or unable to walk or run. You can modify them and do them sitting.

It sounds like you were pretty physically fit before with doing martial arts. You know what that feels like. You can probably create something to develop strength and flexibility and breathing. Actually, playing various things on the trumpet does a good bit to develop things too.

The long held notes until completely empty will develop muscles for blowing and get you used to using all of your air. The flexibility studies that coordinate tongue level and wind power train you to sync things to play more efficiently. All of us need to gain more efficiency and you need it perhaps more than the average person.

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kehaulani · Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:52 am Post subject:

I've ordered one of those devices, but I think I'll go back and revisit my Gordon books, especially the "long held notes until completely empty" exercise. I used to do that but quit.

An aside, yeah Martian Arts. From Fourth degree Black Belt, trained in Japan, to the immobility of a wheelchair. Hard.

Thanks, folks.
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Tony Scodwell · Heavyweight Member Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 1961

I have had very good success with a 6 inch length of 3/4 PVC pipe. Very cheap and with the ends trimmed neatly and sanitized it practically forces you to breath deeply when you inhale through it for a few minutes before starting to practice. Place in the mouth, inhale slowly and your throat will be wide open and the breath will start down low filling up the lungs until you feel it under your armpits. Nothing complicated here but effective.

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kehaulani · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:48 am Post subject:

Thanks for the info, Tony.
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Beyond16 · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:45 pm Post subject:

This idea might not be right for your situation, but playing a tuba can be 'fun'. I used to think my lung capacity was good. Not so after playing my kid's tuba. Wow, those low notes take a whole breath each.

Don Herman rev2 · Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:47 pm Post subject:

Check out the info and products on https://www.windsongpress.com/ Has a number of breathing aides and the classic book "Breathing Gym" or something like that.

HTH - Don
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