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WildWilly Regular Member
Joined: 05 Jul 2020 Posts: 62 Location: Iowa next to the Mississippi
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:49 am Post subject: Trumpet Historians Help Needed |
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As I mentioned in another thread, I purchased an antique Gretsch Pathfinder trumpet for a sentimental reason . . . my very first instrument was a Gretsch Pathfinder trumpet. I know that all Gretsch trumpets were stencils but I can't find any info telling who actually made them. I also have a serial number but can't find any info about that. Any historians who can point me in the right direction to research this waltz down memory lane horn? _________________ Not a 2nd childhood, still in the 1st
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Steve Hollahan Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:21 am Post subject: Pathfinder |
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Probably made by Conn.
Designed as a 2nd line instrument and stencil model. Sold to dealers to circumvent Conn brand in other music stores in same area. _________________ Steve Hollahan
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OldSchoolEuph Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Gretsch used a lot of Pan American stencils. They also branded some instruments "Rex", which then gets theirs confused with the Rex brand of Bryant-Newell in Detroit. To learn more about a given Gretsch horn, you need to provide photos and detailed information to give anyone a fighting chance of figuring out where it was made (valve block in particular) _________________ Ron Berndt
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WildWilly Regular Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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OldSchoolEuph wrote: | Gretsch used a lot of Pan American stencils. They also branded some instruments "Rex", which then gets theirs confused with the Rex brand of Bryant-Newell in Detroit. To learn more about a given Gretsch horn, you need to provide photos and detailed information to give anyone a fighting chance of figuring out where it was made (valve block in particular) |
I've tried to post pics but I have to crop them so much it's hard to tell what's pictured. _________________ Not a 2nd childhood, still in the 1st
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OldSchoolEuph Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Without photos, I cant begin to guess what you might have.
Gretsch began, and remarkably continues today (with a brief interruption when they were owned by Baldwin Pianos from 1967-1984) as a family-owned US-based maker of laminated wood based instruments (Percussion and mandolin family instruments such as guitars, banjos, etc.). Gretsch brass were all stencils as far as I have seen.
The best resource I know of for information on Gretsch is Jon Patton’s work at www.brasshistory.net. He has listed as identified stencils horns from ART, Blessing, Bohland & Fuchs, CMI, Pan American (Conn), and Pedler. In addition, he quotes Fred W. Gretsch as saying Couesnon built a lot of the Gretsch horns a century ago.
History: http://www.brasshistory.net/Gretsch%20History.pdf
Identified serials list: http://www.brasshistory.net/Gretsch%20Brass%20List.pdf
Company website: https://www.gretsch.com/ _________________ Ron Berndt
www.trumpet-history.com
2017 Austin Winds Stage 466
1962 Mt. Vernon Bach 43
1954 Holton 49 Stratodyne
1927 Conn 22B
1957 Holton 27 cornet
1985 Yamaha YEP-621
1975 Yamaha YEP-321 Custom
1965 Besson Baritone
1975 Olds Recording R-20 |
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WildWilly Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Thank you Ron. Exactly what I was looking for. _________________ Not a 2nd childhood, still in the 1st
Adams A9
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jrpbrass Veteran Member
Joined: 08 Apr 2016 Posts: 110 Location: North Ft Myers, Florida
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Trumpet Historians Help Needed |
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WildWilly wrote: | As I mentioned in another thread, I purchased an antique Gretsch Pathfinder trumpet for a sentimental reason . . . my very first instrument was a Gretsch Pathfinder trumpet. I know that all Gretsch trumpets were stencils but I can't find any info telling who actually made them. I also have a serial number but can't find any info about that. Any historians who can point me in the right direction to research this waltz down memory lane horn? |
The Gretsch Pathfinder model is usually a Pedler & Sons stencil; usually of their American Triumph student model. I hope it plays well for you. _________________ BrassHistory.net
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