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kevin_soda Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:04 pm Post subject: Routine and lead players |
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It came up in conversation so now I'm curious. Just like singers "save their voice," lead players often say they're "saving their chops" for a rehearsal or performance. Did Mr. Adam have sympathy for this perspective? _________________ Kevin |
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PH Bill Adam/Carmine Caruso Forum Moderator
Joined: 26 Nov 2001 Posts: 5859 Location: New Albany, Indiana
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Almost totally the opposite. Adam's students have played lead on woody Herman's band, Buddy Rich's band, Las Vegas shows, NYC Broadway, LA studios... Everybocy is different, but most all of the folks I have talked to are insistent on getting in 2-3 hours of routine before going to work. That's what enables them to play great. The more you play, the more dialed in you get. _________________ Bach trumpet artist-clinician
Clinical Professor of Jazz Trumpet, University of Illinois
Professor Emeritus of Jazz Studies, Indiana University Jacobs School of Music
Faculty Jamey Aebersold Jazz Workshops 1976-2019
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kevin_soda Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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PH wrote: | Almost totally the opposite. Adam's students have played lead on woody Herman's band, Buddy Rich's band, Las Vegas shows, NYC Broadway, LA studios... Everybocy is different, but most all of the folks I have talked to are insistent on getting in 2-3 hours of routine before going to work. That's what enables them to play great. The more you play, the more dialed in you get. |
That's what I thought! Thanks! _________________ Kevin |
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Shaft Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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It depends on the lead player, technique, etc.
Some have different sweet spots of time on the horn. |
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adagiotrumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Shaft wrote: | It depends on the lead player, technique, etc.
Some have different sweet spots of time on the horn. |
I remember talking to John Harner, who If I remember correctly was a Caruso student, at a Stan Kenton clinic and he said that he played very little before a gig with the Kenton Band, except to warm up because the lead book was so demanding. |
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Billy B Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:24 am Post subject: |
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If you are playing correctly your concentration will fail long before your physical chops. _________________ Bill Bergren |
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kevin_soda Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:57 am Post subject: |
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adagiotrumpet wrote: | Shaft wrote: | It depends on the lead player, technique, etc.
Some have different sweet spots of time on the horn. |
I remember talking to John Harner, who If I remember correctly was a Caruso student, at a Stan Kenton clinic and he said that he played very little before a gig with the Kenton Band, except to warm up because the lead book was so demanding. |
Even as hearsay, I take that to mean right before a gig and not day practice routine. I always get anxious waiting for the start of the show and I sometimes end up playing too much just before a performance. But early in the day practice has always produced better performances for me. _________________ Kevin |
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PH Bill Adam/Carmine Caruso Forum Moderator
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:16 am Post subject: |
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Billy B wrote: | If you are playing correctly your concentration will fail long before your physical chops. |
This.
Do not confuse Adam students with other (great) players. This is the Adam Forum. _________________ Bach trumpet artist-clinician
Clinical Professor of Jazz Trumpet, University of Illinois
Professor Emeritus of Jazz Studies, Indiana University Jacobs School of Music
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american boy Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:29 am Post subject: |
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It always seems to me that if I had a 2 show day,there is very little concern about chops before the night show;The matinee was sometimes different with a bit of thought going into having puffiness from the night before,and being fully warmed up..Then the night show would be play a few notes and hit it, with little worry..almost without fail now thinking about it |
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