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smcope
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's wrong with the plain old Bach style water keys!? Whenever I've had an amado water key put on a horn, I hate the way it plays, but when the bach water key gets reinstalled, the horn is back to normal!
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are folks who believe that the traditional lever style water key, which has a nipple which projects out from the slide, may interfere with the setting up of the standing wave in the trumpet, especially if it coincides with a node of that wave.

The Amado, saturn, or Joy keys are supposed to reduce the possibility of interference because there is less disturbance of the bore of the horn where the key is installed.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The JoyKey® noticeably reduces the stress and potential for mistakes or even damage to the instrument associated with the player having to quickly remove water from the instrument.

Uh...yeah.

"Wasn't my fault I fracked that note...I had to empty the waterkey!"

"Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my...<passes out>. What happened? Poor guy, had to empty his waterkey."

Seriously - damage the instrument due to quickly removing water???

Now that's marketing!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:39 am    Post subject: I love this thing! Reply with quote

I installed one on my cornet last week and I'm loving it. It may be just my attention deficit issues, but hearing the crackling and having to empty the water used to break my concentration when I was practicing and in the "zone." So yes, it's slightly annoying to have my horn dribbling on me, but I find the trade off well worth it. I plan to experiment with some sort of absorbent material under a leather/velcro strap or something, if it's not too ugly. But water simply no longer accumulates in my cornet. The third slide water key is now superfluous. And I have not noticed any difference in tone, pitch, or playability.

As far as being future proof: apparently you can clean the element in an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner. And yes, my research tells me it's sintered metal and is somehow or other "hydrophylic," which means I guess that surface tension is low so the water flows through readily. As someone mentioned, you can find very similar products (e.g. https://bit.ly/32CZiQZ) though I suppose you'd want to contact the manufacturer and describe what it's for to make sure it would be compatible.
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