Which Real/Fake book?

delano · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:46 pm Post subject: Which Real/Fake book?

It's just a simple question: I want something like a fake book with a lot of jazz standards and ballads in it for Bflat trumpet. Via Google I got a lot of possibilities and the choice is not simple.
My provisional choice is The Real book, sixth edition for Bflat instruments.
Is that a good idea?

GeorgeB · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:46 am Post subject:

Check out this link:

www.bobroetker.com

A couple of years ago he offered a link in Trumpetherald to get his new BOB BOOK available in both Concert and Bb editions. It was free and only available in pdf format. I got them and they are loaded with some of the best old jazz standards and ballads. Well over 600 excellent arrangements. Highly recommended.

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TrumpetMD · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:26 am Post subject:

I agree with George that Bob Roetker's fake book is a great choice. The price is right (free), and the quality of the transcriptions is very good and comparable to The Real Book. And as of his latest version, you can get it for C, Bb, Eb, and bass clef instruments.

That being said, I agree with the OP's provisional choice. For me, The Real Book, sixth edition, is the standard. It is a bigger investment, with 6 volumes in the main series (although the majority of the most commonly called songs are in the first 4 volumes).

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HaveTrumpetWillTravel · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:08 am Post subject:

I looked on his site on the free stuff page and couldn't find a download link for the bobbook...

I've just been playing out of one of those online fake books. I think mine had ~550 tunes, and maybe a fifth I've heard before.

I don't know whether you should get the C volume and learn to transpose or just go with the Bb. Tonight I went to a live jam and it sure looked like everyone was reading off of their phones. I realized with irealpro you can also transpose all the chords, right? We live in interesting times...

TrumpetMD · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:01 am Post subject:

Didymus

http://www.jstreetjazz.com/FakeBooks/The_New_Bob_Book.pdf

I'm unsure if it's the latest version.
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delano · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:17 pm Post subject:

Great, that will do for some time, thanks!

HaveTrumpetWillTravel · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:24 pm Post subject:

Here's a quick, related question. For chords, folk seem to be using irealpro, which will even transpose for you.

Is there an app version of the real book that's searchable like this? I'd imagine scrolling through a pdf is clunky, but if you can just type in "Cherokee" you're in a better spot.

delano · Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:05 am Post subject:

I mailed Bob and he sent me a link to his Bflat Bob book.
Great service, really nice.
Great book BTW.

TrumpetFunk · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:41 pm Post subject:

Just as an FYI, I too contacted Rob and he sent me the links to the BIAB and .sib files. Used to crest the New Bob Book.

As an iPad user and a Sibelius user, I had loaded Sibelius Scorch on my iPad ($3.00).

I uploaded all of his .sib files to iPad Scorch and ALL of his lead sheets can be viewed AND transposed to any key or octave.

Works on Phone too, I'm advised.

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Bob Roetker graciously gave me the Bb version of his "New Bob Book" as a PDF file. No need to transpose using Sibelius. Thanks, Bob!

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PH · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:05 pm Post subject:

The New Real Book series by Sher Music and the Legal Real Book Series by Hal Leonard are generally very accurate. Unlike most "fake books," these publishers bothered to secure publishing permissions and pay royalties to the composers or their estates. That is worth a lot to me.

I know the following will sound a bit jerky and a bit curmudgeonly. Oh, well...

I think that nobody should only buy a concert key fakebook. On the occasion when you need it for yourself, learn to transpose. It isn't difficult. Most often, you will use your fakebook to lend it to the rhythm section players so they can play tunes you like that they haven't yet learned.

Learn tunes off records wherever possible. Learn to transpose. Buy a fakebook for your collaborators benefit.
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kehaulani · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:53 pm Post subject:

Phil, do you mean that you would provide transposed books to your bandmates but use a concert-pitched book for yourself?
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PH · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:01 pm Post subject:

kehaulani · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:36 pm Post subject:

Thanks, PAT, (Like the Host of another forum I frequent says, "This is a spelling-free zone", LOL.) Yeah, all too often people forget that Jazz is an AURAL Art.
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Rapier232 · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:39 am Post subject:

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Pat’s right.

Frank Bronte · Regular Member Joined: 13 Oct 2020 Posts: 12

Its not easy question...

Don Herman rev2 · Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:44 am Post subject: