• FAQ  • Search  • Memberlist  • Usergroups   • Register   • Profile  • Log in to check your private messages  • Log in 

3C backbore



 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Mouthpieces
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
napoorsocapo
Regular Member


Joined: 05 Apr 2019
Posts: 85

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:00 pm    Post subject: 3C backbore Reply with quote

Is there a Bach 3C mouthpiece with a larger backbore?
To achieve a smoky effect...like Fruscella


Last edited by napoorsocapo on Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:25 am; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Tpt_Guy
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 16 Jul 2004
Posts: 838
Location: Sacramento, Ca

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could custom order one, which may take a while.

A 3C is a fairly shallow cup. I'm not sure a larger backbore would be enough to counter that.

You would probably be more successful having a 3C rim threaded onto an underpart with a deeper cup, funnel shaped.

Or you could contact Matt Frost (frostcustombrass.net) - he has an expansive library of backbore duplications and he might have something that works.
_________________
-Tom Hall-
Bach 37 B flat
Bach 239 C w/Akright Leadpipe
Schilke E3L E flat
Stomvi Piccolo
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
falado
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 672
Location: Eastern NC

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I use a Curry 3BC. Read his description on Curry's website.

Dave
_________________
FA LA DO (Ab: V/ii) MUCS, USN (Ret.)
Stomvi VR (Reeves) with VR II Bell
Stomvi Forte Pocket
Bach 239 25A C, Blueprinted
Kanstul Flugel
Getzen 4 valve Pic.
Yamaha D/Eb
Besson Cornet
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
harryjamesworstnightmare
Veteran Member


Joined: 04 Mar 2010
Posts: 144

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can go the Curry 3CB route or the Austin Custom Brass MV3C or MV3CB. At least with ACB you should be able to buy a screw cup and backbore so you can have a few options without spending a lot on combos that may or may not work. But if you really want a smoky sound you might want to consult with them on something deeper, like one of the flugel shaped cups on a trumpet backbore. Call them for a consult, but also check out Trent's Youtube channel where he demos almost every mouthpiece they make.

Disclaimer: I do not work for nor have any affiliation with Austin Custom Brass or Curry except I am a happy customer with several of their products.
_________________
Brian James
-------------------------
King Super 20 Symphony
Bach Strad 25/43 Sterling Silver Plus
Getzen Proteus
Yamaha 6335HS
Olds Super
Olds Mendez
Getzen Custom 3850 Cornet
Conn 80A
Getzen Eterna Flugelhorn
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ozzbo
Veteran Member


Joined: 16 Feb 2011
Posts: 111
Location: New York

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you can get a beater Bach 3C and experiment with opening up the throat. It won't be much of a loss as much of a learning experience.

Ozzy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
zaferis
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 03 Nov 2011
Posts: 1859
Location: Beavercreek, OH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you're looking for a deeper cup, not necessarily a more open throat.

Curry 3B, 3TC, 3TF.
_________________
Freelance Performer/Educator
Adjunct Professor
Bach Trumpet Endorsing Artist
Retired Air Force Bandsman
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
napoorsocapo
Regular Member


Joined: 05 Apr 2019
Posts: 85

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am looking for a similar sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhZ1QJ4lohw
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
wilder
Regular Member


Joined: 27 Jun 2020
Posts: 85
Location: NYC

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaferis wrote:
I think you're looking for a deeper cup, not necessarily a more open throat.

Curry 3B, 3TC, 3TF.
I agree. Changing the cup is the way to go. jw
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
delano
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 18 Jan 2009
Posts: 2037
Location: The Netherlands

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

napoorsocapo wrote:
I am looking for a similar sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhZ1QJ4lohw


Ignore the Curry lobby and learn to play ppp
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bflatman
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 01 Nov 2016
Posts: 516

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

delano nailed it

Tone is about embouchure plus mouthpiece plus instrument working together as a system.

Mouthpiece changes are the easiest cheapest and quickest but they often fail in the long run.

Beware of making mouthpiece changes alone without paying attention to the embouchure. After the change the tones usually drift back to the tones you had before the mouthpiece change.

It is the embouchure change that is the permanent change and the most productive.

Working on the tone formation exactly as delano indicated is good advice but adding a mouthpiece cup change to this offers the best chance of a quick and permanent improvement.
_________________
Conn 80a Cornet
Boosey & Hawkes Imperial Trumpet
Olds Fullerton Special Trumpet
Selmer Invicta Trumpet
Yamaha YCR 2330II Cornet
Selmer Student Trumpet
Bohland and Fuchs peashooter Trumpet
Boosey and Hawkes Regent Cornet
Lark M4045 Cornet
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Dale Proctor
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 26 May 2005
Posts: 8932
Location: Heart of Dixie

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy a Bach 1-1/2C. Don’t let the number scare you, it’s very similar to a 3C except the cup is a bit deeper. Still pretty easy to play, and a much richer sound than the 3C.
_________________
Olde Towne Brass
www.otbrass.com

Brass Band of Huntsville
www.brassbandofhuntsville.com

"Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Mouthpieces All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group