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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:52 am    Post subject: Any idea who is playing on this track? Reply with quote

Sometimes, good trumpet lines show up in unexpected places.
Forget about the fact that the lyrics and overall feel of the song are at odds...
Any idea who is laying it out there on this track?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maynard Fergsuon board says Bobby Shew.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/maynardfergusonboard/trumpet-players-on-pop-records-t3775.html
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the response!

Thoughts on Bobby Shew being overdubbed vs. him and another player?
Maybe I need to clean my ears, but it sounds like a unison line on the intro and refrains...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's not Bobby it could be Bud Brisbois.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be Bud. Hard to find full personnel list. Appeared to be a Wrecking Crew effort.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geez.....it's a pretty generic (though high) part. At the time of this recording there were probably several hundred trumpet players in LA who could have played that part. Other than a studio log or some word of mouth information, I don't know why anybody would single out a particular player as being on the track.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khedger wrote:
Geez.....it's a pretty generic (though high) part. At the time of this recording there were probably several hundred trumpet players in LA who could have played that part. Other than a studio log or some word of mouth information, I don't know why anybody would single out a particular player as being on the track.

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Keith,

Point well taken; lots of people out there could play that part. It was more that I hadn't heard the song until recently, and I was curious about the history as it was before my time...

Thanks,
Dan
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked Bobby if it was him and he wasn't sure. He thought that he remembered recording something for Sherman, but honestly thought this track sounded more like Bud. When you've done as many recordings as he has, its hard to remember all the sessions.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmr wrote:
khedger wrote:
Geez.....it's a pretty generic (though high) part. At the time of this recording there were probably several hundred trumpet players in LA who could have played that part. Other than a studio log or some word of mouth information, I don't know why anybody would single out a particular player as being on the track.

keith


Keith,

Point well taken; lots of people out there could play that part. It was more that I hadn't heard the song until recently, and I was curious about the history as it was before my time...

Thanks,
Dan


I'm not sure if it would have much commercial potential, but it would be fascinating if somebody got ahold of a bunch of old studio logs, union sheets, etc. and put out a definitive book or website of verified personnel lists for recordings. It would be a massive undertaking, but if you think about it, it's really a slice of history.....

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and in my first response, I wasn't being snarky at you about your question, it just seemed like a hard thing to suss out based on listening alone.....

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for their responses.
It would be neat (well, to some of us anyway) to have the kind of reference that Keith describes - like a sports encyclopedia, but for musicians.

I still wonder who wrote the horn arrangement and how it came to be...the triumphant, fanfare-like nature really doesn't go along with the lyrics of some guy ruminating over 'Julie'. But, such are the ways of pop music.... as fun as it would be to think there's a good story to go along with it, most likely it was 'write the part, lay it down, move on'

Anyway, thanks for providing a diversion from the rest of life for a bit!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al Capps arranged and conducted the orchestra. He was a pretty prolific writer arranger and producer for many recording stars such as Andy Williams, Cher, etc. As arranger, I would guess that he wrote the horn section along with the rest of the instruments.
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