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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure Carmine could tell objectively better than I could. However, since you're working without benefit of regular observation by "the master", I would say...

When all or most most of the notes start to speak clearly (most every day), the first and last note of the spiders feel like the center of your register, and the two outside notes (the octaves) no longer feel like you have to reach for them excessively that is a good time to move on. It doesn't have to be "perfect"!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the new book, FLEXUS (by Frink & McNeil), you will find both developed scales and spiders.. and as the foreword says:

FLEXUS synthesizes the teaching techniques of Laurie Frink, John McNeil and Carmine Caruso,...

The more I use that book the better I like it!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's see if I've got this straight. For the nodes I just relax the embouchure 'til the note drops to the next harmonic below. What about the air speed? Wouldn't it be slower for the lower pitch? Or is the difference insignificant?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I retrieve this old conversation to ask a question. how many times a day do you have to do the spider exercise ?, bugleboy says you have to do it several times, that's why I'm confused. I usually do the callestenia in the morning and in the afternoon other studies and music. should i introduce the spiders in the afternoons? Thanks a lot !!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do my entire set of calisthenics first thing in the day, as you do. Do it once and I'm good to go.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much Pat for clearing my doubts. As Gstump likes to remember, don't think, just do it !!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad this thread came back around. I was never assigned either of these exercises. Maybe it was the time period when I took lessons or maybe they were medicine for a condition I didn't have. I was assigned something similar to the "nodes" exercise. I was to play chromatically from 3rd space C down to 2nd line G and back up. It was to be done two ways: first on the mouthpiece, then on the horn without using valves. Carmine told me to make the lips emulate what they did with the mouthpiece when I was playing it on the horn.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a very good set of the exercises and thank you for bringing the thread back!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re spiders - what is the timing? Quarter notes at 60? And it sounds like you consider spiders part of your calisthenics routine? Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnO wrote:
Re spiders - what is the timing? Quarter notes at 60? And it sounds like you consider spiders part of your calisthenics routine? Thanks!


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