Piggybacking on the original question here. I may have the chance to get a cheap Manny Klein practice mute made by Humes and Berg. Any experience? Looking for a practice mute to leave in the office and brighten up my day when I have to start really early. _________________ 2019 Martin Schmidt eXcellence
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There is the miniature mute you could make yourself from a filed down wine cork with a 3/16" hole bored through center. Use this to plug a Harmon mute without stem.
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:11 pm Post subject:
hibidogrulez wrote:
If you already own a harmon mute, playing it with the stem removed ....
That's what I do. When traveling and staying at a hotel, I use a harmon mute with the TV on for a little background noise. I've never received a complaint.
But If I need to play as quiet as possible, I use a Sshh mute practice mute.
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:49 am Post subject:
Base on everyone's recommendations, I purchased the sshhmute (practice mute) from Austin Custom Brass. Great mute and crazy great service from the folks at ACB. Thanks all !
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:57 am Post subject:
I'm interested in the upmute, does anyone have any experience with it that could tell me what the resistance is like?
I don't need the quietest mute around, so I'm happy to play with a bit more noise, if it frees up the resistance.
Having used the bremner mutes, I find the resistance to be too big a difference between muted and unmuted. While the upmute isn't a particularly cheap option, I'd like to get some opinions, rather than just rely on sales fluff.
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:25 am Post subject:
Have you tried the Rejano? I have one but don't use it because the Silent Mute and Best Brass are quieter. But they both have a fair amount of resistance and intonation problems. The Rejano is still quiet, just not as much, and it's the most free-blowing practice mute I've played, and I've played a lot, quietness being my overriding factor.
https://rejanomutes.com/ _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
I'm interested in the upmute, does anyone have any experience with it that could tell me what the resistance is like?
I don't need the quietest mute around, so I'm happy to play with a bit more noise, if it frees up the resistance.
Having used the bremner mutes, I find the resistance to be too big a difference between muted and unmuted. While the upmute isn't a particularly cheap option, I'd like to get some opinions, rather than just rely on sales fluff.
I just got a Stomvi UpMute from the TH Marketplace that came with a gently used Stomvi 4v Bb tpt purchase. The seller had all of these Stomvi accessories, including the UpMute and Stomvi straight mute, both of which are excellent. I have had one of those small Best Brass practice mutes for quite a few years, which has been the softest practice mute that I've ever tried. Both the Stomvi and the Best Brass use neoprene "wrap" completely around the stem, so that no sound escapes other than through the small hole at the end (on each of these mutes). Incidentally, the instructions state not to twist the mute when inserting to avoid putting wear on the neoprene; just push it in with slight pressure until you attain a seal. That's all.
The Stomvi plays better in tune than any on the market that I've ever played. It is a little louder than the Best Brass and has a more buzzy quality to the sound. I had the lead player on our present show test it last night at our dress rehearsal, and his comments were the same: good quality construction, very good intonation/response/playability from bottom to top, buzzy tone quality was "different" but acceptable for its purpose.
[My Stomvi straight mute got equal praises from him. It is now my No. 1 straight mute. I've been using a TrumCor aluminum straight mute, especially for loud straight mute passages (yes, it is a thing), and it has excellent pitch/response/et al. The Stomvi is a little warmer, super light (of plastic construction?), but has incredible intonation from bottom to top. I'm now using the Stomvi for most straight mute needs.]
Quite frankly I did not expect these results. I know Stomvi makes quality products, but I did not think these two mutes would "overtake" the "positions" of my main practice and straight mutes. I would still keep the Best Brass on hand for those moments in a church setting, where I need to play a note or two extremely softly prior to an exposed entrance after a rest period. The buzzy quality of the Stomvi would be heard, I think. However, comparing/contrasting playability, as in practicing, say, in a hotel room, I would definitely choose the Stomvi.
I went on a bit of a practice mute safari this past year. I found the best were the Divitt, Rejano, and the one designed by Mark Hughes, principal trumpet with the Houston (I think) Symphony. They all were the best as far as resistance and intonation, although the small Best Brass along with their copies, were slightly quieter. When travelling, I usually take my Dillon clone of the Best Brass since it is the most compact. Locally, I use the Rejano, mainly because it fits in my mute bag the best.
I'm interested in the upmute, does anyone have any experience with it that could tell me what the resistance is like?
I don't need the quietest mute around, so I'm happy to play with a bit more noise, if it frees up the resistance.
Having used the bremner mutes, I find the resistance to be too big a difference between muted and unmuted. While the upmute isn't a particularly cheap option, I'd like to get some opinions, rather than just rely on sales fluff.
Specifically designed for people who live in apartments etc and can't often do open horn playing.
More open blowing than a Harmon, and in tune from low F# to at high G.
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:11 am Post subject:
Ewan, when you say, "The Divitt Practice Mute was created after trying dozens of practice mutes. The quietest mutes were too stuffy, and most mutes didn't play well over the entire range of the trumpet", do you mean that, while more open blowing, that your mutes are louder than the quietist mutes? Thanks. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Ewan, when you say, "The Divitt Practice Mute was created after trying dozens of practice mutes. The quietest mutes were too stuffy, and most mutes didn't play well over the entire range of the trumpet", do you mean that, while more open blowing, that your mutes are louder than the quietist mutes? Thanks.
Yes. My mute is louder than silent brass and best brass.
Those mutes are great if you just need to get your lips going backstage or some place where silence is the #1 goal.
The quieter the mute, the more back pressure and tuning problems occur.
I believe that if you practice with a bad practice mute that forces you to strain your chops and teaches your ears and body to do all sorts of gymnastics to play in tune, that you would be better off not practicing at all.
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:47 pm Post subject:
Divitt Trumpets wrote:
sd4f wrote:
I'm interested in the upmute, does anyone have any experience with it that could tell me what the resistance is like?
I don't need the quietest mute around, so I'm happy to play with a bit more noise, if it frees up the resistance.
Having used the bremner mutes, I find the resistance to be too big a difference between muted and unmuted. While the upmute isn't a particularly cheap option, I'd like to get some opinions, rather than just rely on sales fluff.
Specifically designed for people who live in apartments etc and can't often do open horn playing.
More open blowing than a Harmon, and in tune from low F# to at high G.
There are plenty of comparisons and reviews on YouTube so you can see how it plays and not just hear it from the guy selling them.
I have this mute in purple and it works great. Intonation is great and not a lot of back pressure compared to other practice mutes. Plays in tune as well. _________________ Current horns
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These work as an attachment to the end of my mutes with the removable cork system. There are two versions of the attachment that provide different playing experiences. The open version is more free blowing but a bit louder, the tight version is quieter but has a tighter blow. We have the second version of these shipping now. (improved design)
The practice mute attachments are available as part of a bundle right now and are a pretty good deal I think, and discount code Smute10 is still active.
_________________ Dr. Nathan Sobieralski
www.s-mute.com
Principal Trumpet, Sequoia Symphony
Department of Music (Trumpet)
California State University, Fresno
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