Of course, that's just if you want an amazing broad, fat, focused, warm, brilliant, dark, resonant, vibrant, velvet, earth shattering, tear-jerking sound with unparalleled projection, perfect intonation, and response so fast the notes just jump out of the bell with the slightest effort.
Wow. You just described my gig this morning! _________________ Crazy Nate - Fine Yet Mellow Fellow
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Joined: 05 Nov 2005 Posts: 1210 Location: Gothenburg,Sweden
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:34 pm Post subject:
I don't understand why one should strive for a darker Bb sound than the C sound. The Bb thends to sound richer, due to the longer tubing.
I've ben working in a opera orchestra for the past 19 years, playing a lot of the repertoire on Bb-both as tutti trumpet and solo trumpet.
Currently, I'm on leave from my band, being solo trumpet in the Oslo phil. This is a very C trumpet orinted orchestra, but We'we used Bb' on a few occasions. The last thing I would want from a Bb in both these settings is a dark sound. I would have to work my butt off to even be heard by the woodwinds!
Maybe THEY want to get me a darker horn-like a flugel or something....! _________________ Principal trumpet Gothenburg Opera Orchestra
Bach LT 37 Bb (Mr. Findleys old)
Bach Mt Vernon 1957 Bb
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Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 10609 Location: The land of GR and Getzen
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:01 pm Post subject:
musicman0097 wrote:
Yes, I meant 43 bell/7 LP. I have a Bach 43 with a tuning rail on it. I would have a 43 tuning bell with a 7 leadpipe. I figured the 43 would be bright, but the 7 would darken it slightly offering a nice tone. What does everyone think?
Joined: 10 Jul 2012 Posts: 601 Location: SF Bay Area, California
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:55 pm Post subject:
razeontherock wrote:
musicman0097 wrote:
Yes, I meant 43 bell/7 LP. I have a Bach 43 with a tuning rail on it. I would have a 43 tuning bell with a 7 leadpipe. I figured the 43 would be bright, but the 7 would darken it slightly offering a nice tone. What does everyone think?
Matthew
What lp does your 43 have now?
It's just a bell with a tuning rail on it. That's all I have. I'll be buying a set of Bach ML valves or be getting a set of valves from my friend. So I'm starting from scratch, which makes it much harder.
Matthew _________________ Matthew Porter
"There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, learning from failure"- Colin Powell
A Bach 190-43 with a 1-1/4 sized mouthpiece and a larger back bore like a #24 does the trick, believe me. Huge sound, never breaks up, great core, everything you would want in Bb orchestral setup.
Both the 43 bell and 43 lp are each brighter than other options. I played this through school and while i was louder than the entire marching band put together (graduating class of 2200) .
I would recommend following this guy’s advice since he is from the future.
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 5675 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:23 am Post subject:
Shark01 wrote:
razeontherock wrote:
Both the 43 bell and 43 lp are each brighter than other options. I played this through school and while i was louder than the entire marching band put together (graduating class of 2200) .
I would recommend following this guy’s advice since he is from the future.
So, given that you're still relatively new here, I'll let you in on the information that razeontherock has been a solid contributor here for 17 years with over 10,000 posts. I can forgive a typo here and there. Otherwise, the things he posts are usually pretty accurate - I don't agree with anyone 100% of the time, but I can't think of a specific instance where I didn't. _________________ Patrick Gleason
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Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 5675 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:13 pm Post subject:
Shark01 wrote:
Not sure if serious......
Everyone needs some humor in life...
You're right - for an old zombie thread it probably doesn't matter. _________________ Patrick Gleason
- Jupiter 1600i, ACB 3C, Warburton 4SVW/Titmus RT2
- Brasspire Unicorn C
- ACB Doubler
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Ehhh.....for myself, you could give me Phil Smith's Bb for Christmas and Harry Glantz's Bb for my birthday to play on.....I still wouldn't get the gig......
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