Con sordini!!, Loud and Soft

Webbsta78 · Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2002 10:03 pm Post subject:

Which straight mutes do you favor, do you like one kind for loud, and another for tone and color? Or do you use an all purpose st mute.

for loud mutes I mean 'Pines' or something similar.

Thanks

Jason

ChopsMcgraw · Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2002 11:09 pm Post subject:

Dunno about loud/soft mutes, I just use my Jo-Ral Copper bottom for everything. Of course, I'm not a big legit player...

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_Don Herman · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2002 7:48 am Post subject:

I only have my Wick adjustable cup/straight combo. For a louder straight with more bite, I may get a Joral or Tom Crown. (Haven't needed a straight but once since restarting about four years ago, but since joining a community orchestra it looks like I may need one more often.) Most orchestral players I know have several straights, from hard metal to soft wood types, to provide a variety of sound colors.

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trickg · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2002 10:22 am Post subject:

I use a Tom Crown all aluminum for everything. I wanted copper but didn't want to pay for it and I got this one from a scratch and dent deal.

I think that the Tom Crown lends itself very well to Jazz playing due to it's very robust, cutting sound, but for legit, I liked the Vachiano that I was issued while in the Army. It had a really nice, smooth, mellow sound and was what the whole section used for concert band. I still liked the Tom Crown for Big Band though.

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johntpt · Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2002 10:25 am Post subject:

For general loud earplitting passages I use a regular Jo-Ral straight. I think the Wick might be 5% louder but the sound is thinner and tends to be sharp. The Jo-Ral has a full sound and plays well in tune.

I have 3 different soft mutes: a red Montreal mute with about 5 cotton balls inside, a TrumCor Lyric mute, and a Marcus Bonna Super Soft mute, listed in order from softest to loudest. The Montreal mute is really soft, especially with the added cotton balls, but the sound leaves a little to be desired. However, it sure is nice when the conductor really doesn't want to hear the trumpets at all. The TrumCor is a little louder and sounds just a little better, but still sounds a little like you have a sock in your bell. The super-soft MB mute is the best of the three - it sounds like a real mute only softer.

John Urness

jdh · Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2002 4:17 pm Post subject:

I also have several of each. For my lound, I almost always use my wick, unless I have to conform to the masses of other orchestral trumpet players and use a tom crown. For soft I either use my trumcor lyric with cotton balls in it or a tom crown with straight edges. They both work well, and the tom crown is just a bit louder.

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I love my Marcus Bonna straight mutes. I use the black fiberglass mute for less metalic buzz, and the all brass mute for a REALLY loud part (like Pines). It's a great mute but kind of expensive.

walter · Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2002 6:03 am Post subject:

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trickg · Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2002 6:50 am Post subject:

For me, a mute is a mute. I had a Tom Crown that I inherited about 15 years ago from a sister who no longer plays. When I went to replace it, I went with what I knew.

Vachianno also makes a wonderful straight mute, but I think that it is better suited for classical (concert band, orchestra, quintet) work than for jazz. It is much smoother than a Tom Crown. I don't really know much about the Dennis Wick or the Jo Ral straights but they must be pretty good because I see quite a few of them being used.

As for the WT bell flare, I've never even seen one so I can't help you on that.
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PStephens · Regular Member Joined: 29 Dec 2001 Posts: 14

what do you all suggest for an all purpose straight mute
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Matt Perez · New Member Joined: 13 Apr 2002 Posts: 7

My Jo-Ral copper-bottom has an unusually colorful sound for a st.mt. It has dynamic potential, and it plays in tune. I also have a stone-lined cup mute that I sliced the cork off of that gives a great sound. I do a lot of solo work in my jazz ensemble with it (I already posted a topic on this, but slicing off a cork on a stone-line mute is a great way to intensify the intended sound of the mute. Most mutes come with a lot of cork and barely influence the sound at all. I found this is the most effective way to make a cheap mute better if you're on a budget.)

DCBASS · Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2002 6:01 am Post subject:

Walter,
If you want a mute for the WT call Flip...he sells them ready for the WT. He has a number of them to chose from.
Later...
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walter · Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2002 6:08 pm Post subject:

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