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HaveTrumpetWillTravel
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| For OP, I sometimes have the same issue with "stale air" and it's not a function of health (I believe). Instead, it's matching the amount of breath to the passage and not overblowing or overbreathing. I am still working on this and sometimes also have to add exhales. I don't think taking up jogging (or the like) would improve this for you. There are some great threads on here about the problem you are working on. |
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ebolton
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Jeff, I tried to register for your site so I could see that video, but when I got to the part where an email was sent, that email never got to me.
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Andy Del
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| hibidogrulez wrote: |
Please feel free to ignore, if you must.
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You misunderstood my original post. I do value my health, but my physical fitness is sufficient for everyday life and that means it's hard to find a proper source of motivation to 'do more', especially when daily life includes a million distractions. I've tried exercising in the past and never could keep it up because it's so dreadfully boring (team sports are even worse because of the attitude of most 'team players').
So I have to motivate myself somehow, and the promise of improving my playing even a little bit does the job for now. |
As a ‘textbook couch potato’, it is even MORE obvious now you need an attitude adjustment. Living like this is not normal. I would suggest that I did not misunderstand your original post, rather you do not realise the import of your post!
If life distracts one from exercise to the point you described, then they need to look at their life and reorganise it, lest life does the reorganising for you in a more succinct and possibly permanent way.
And if you don’t like team-based activity, how do you get along in an ensemble? It is after all, a team activity!
I return to attitude adjustment...
I know there’s nothing worse than a reformed couch potato, which I was back in the early 1990’s. Getting out of breath, having palpitations while playing taxing passages was a message I eventually listened to. I took it seriously and got fit. Today, I am no gym junkie, and don’t have an exercise routine, unless one counts walking the dogs. I do some water sports. I am active. I make an effort to eat wisely. All of this without being over zealous. It pays off - cardiologist is stumped at how well I can do stress tests, I feel like I am playing at a good standard and have not only scope to develop, possibility is there.
Why not turn the TV off, do 30 minutes of practice, go for an hour walk and do another 30 minutes? Do it daily. Get back to everyone in a month and report how things are.
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Richard III
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As a confirmed gymaholic, I can say being in shape makes all of life better and easier. I have for over four decades done weight lifting, flexibility exercises and cardio. I don't have any physical ailments or complaints. I rarely get sick. And holding a marching baritone is not taxing on my arms or shoulders or back. I really enjoy the gym and hate it if I miss a day.
You can live your life any way you want. Investments in fitness pay huge dividends especially when getting older.
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tomba51
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If I remember correctly, Bud Brisbois recommended a fitness program for trumpet players. I think that the program he used was devised by the Canadian Air Force.
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Bethmike
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| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:02 pm Post subject: Physical Fitness |
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Richard,
Agreed on all points! Starting at a gym 44 years ago at 18. Still at it. Get cranky when I miss workouts. Still don't like stretching, but appreciate it more now at 62 than ever before.
Makes trumpet playing easier too.
Mike
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hibidogrulez
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| Andy Del wrote: | | if you don’t like team-based activity, how do you get along in an ensemble? It is after all, a team activity! |
Mainly because 'sports people' tend to be so competitive and result driven. The musicians I know are generally relaxed and easygoing, and those that aren't I tend to avoid.
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delano
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| I only want to play with musicians who are 'result driven'. |
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hibidogrulez
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| delano wrote: | | I only want to play with musicians who are 'result driven'. |
Result driven yes, competitively result driven, no. The people I'm referring to are the people that derive their self worth from putting down people who are less skilled than themselves. There are too many of those people in team sports for my liking, though evidently there are musicians like that as well.
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delano
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Hmm, I don't know. In the jazzworld it's quite common to have very competitive jam sessions. If I remember well it was in the days of the development of the bop usance to make it so difficult that less qualified players had to leave the bandstand. In the past when I played bass guitar I remember some sessions with an American trumpet player living in Europe where every session started with some standard in ridiculous up tempo just to get rid of some players.
Listen to 'For Musicians Only' , Dizzy Gillespie's view on it. |
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hibidogrulez
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| delano wrote: | Hmm, I don't know. In the jazzworld it's quite common to have very competitive jam sessions. If I remember well it was in the days of the development of the bop usance to make it so difficult that less qualified players had to leave the bandstand. In the past when I played bass guitar I remember some sessions with an American trumpet player living in Europe where every session started with some standard in ridiculous up tempo just to get rid of some players.
Listen to 'For Musicians Only' , Dizzy Gillespie's view on it. |
When a band has certain standards in order to reach a certain level of performance, that's ok. A professional playing with other professionals having standards, or people being competitive as part of a competition, have every right to do so. But when amateurs who are only slightly better than someone else abuse their position to exclude or trash those 'beneath them', that's where I have issues. Fortunately, as a hobbyist musician I have the luxury to avoid such people. With team sports, not so much. Being a short chubby guy, I've been on the receiving end of verbal abuse far too often.
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cgaiii
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Exercise, stretching and fitness make life better for me. When life is better, my horn playing is better.
I try to swim a mile (well 1600 meters) every other day, stretch and do various weight bearing exercises every day. I am not the most fit person in the world by far and do not look anything like an athlete any more, but fitness is certainly part of the quality of life for me, as is trumpet playing.
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Andy Del
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| hibidogrulez wrote: |
Mainly because 'sports people' tend to be so competitive and result driven. The musicians I know are generally relaxed and easygoing, and those that aren't I tend to avoid. |
Mann, you need to hang out and play sports with different people! They sound like the antithesis of sporting!
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LaTrompeta
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Aerobic exercise will help your VO2Max, which is the amount of oxygen your cells can uptake. That has no bearing on brass performance. Playing trumpet we don't need a whole lot of air volume to begin with. Also, having shredded abs isn't going to get you a Dubba C.
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