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sdr93trp
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:53 am    Post subject: Eb and E won't slot. Reply with quote

So I've been struggling with this issue for a few weeks now. I warm up using a modified version of the Stamp routine which takes me down to pedal C and then up to double G.

F, F#, and G above high C I can negotiate with but Eb and E do not want to slot. It just feels like the target is the size of a pinhole. I can eventually land on it after dancing above and below for a second and I've tried all the valve combinations to see if that helps. This is frustrating because it's hurting the development of resonance on the higher notes I can slot more consistently. Just wanted to see if there's anything I'm missing here that may be help me out. You can see my equipment in the signature. I play the Yamaha with the CG3 as my daily driver.
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Christian K. Peters
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:14 am    Post subject: Eband E won't slot Reply with quote

Hello,
Check mouthpiece to venturi gap. Sounds like it is too big.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might do a search (even a Google search) on Yamaha and mouthpiece gap. There has been past discussion on Kanstul made mouthpiece gap and Yamaha trumpets.

Try to borrow a Yamaha mouthpiece of a similar size and see if the problem still exists. If it does then start exploring the mouthpiece to receiver end gap.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. This is something I'll definitely look in to.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello
with such throat sizes like this, it makes sometimes more difficult to slot the notes in the high register.
I'd try a mpc in the size of the 1 1/2 C with a #27 throat and see what happens
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is the nature of that overtone in the series.. I've seen it called a "lesser tone" it tends to be on the flat side and hard to center. Some mouthpiece adjustments might help but will likely affect somewhere else in a negative manner. Everything is a compromise.
C, D, and G all open settle pretty well; E is squarely and the F is nearly an F#.
Could be a gap issue, but if the D and the G are popping, I tend to think not.

Look up overtone series and pitch tendencies....
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