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jicetp Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:49 am Post subject: Mute for flugelhorn |
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Hi
Does anybody uses a mute for Flugelhorn ?
I play in a brass project and we are looking for ' sounds ' and I was considering buying some mutes for my flugel.
Any advice ?
Thanks
JiCe |
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trpthrld Heavyweight Member
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JazzFluegel Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Generally you will find that your flugel will go extremely sharp with any but a straight mute or cup mute, if you can find one that fits; e/g the Stonelined cup mute does not fit the Kanstul 1525. _________________ Been here before...
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NOW, Keith Allen Pintar
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Kanstul 1525 FL
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maynard-46 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:36 am Post subject: mute for flugelhorn |
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The Easy Bucket website is terrible! Their old site used to give specs on bell dimeter sizes, etc. No such mention on the new site...at least that I can find! Regarding the new flugel mute...flugels have so many different bell diameters it would certainly help alot to know what size their flugel bucket fits.
Butch _________________ TRUMPE: YAMAHA Lacq. "Shew Gen II" / Legends .585 "CatMaster" Top / KT "TKO" BB / Reeves #5.75 Sleeve.
FLUGELHORN: ADAMS Custom "F1" / Legends .585 "CatMaster FL. |
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trpthrld Heavyweight Member
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maynard-46 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:09 am Post subject: Mute for flugelhorn |
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Quote: | Have you contacted them and asked? |
No as I'm not interested in purchasing one. I took a look at the current site and noticed that, compared to their old site, it seems much less informative.
Butch _________________ TRUMPE: YAMAHA Lacq. "Shew Gen II" / Legends .585 "CatMaster" Top / KT "TKO" BB / Reeves #5.75 Sleeve.
FLUGELHORN: ADAMS Custom "F1" / Legends .585 "CatMaster FL. |
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nltrumpet Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Trumcor makes flugel mutes. They make them in a smaller and larger size to fit different bells. |
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popTbop Regular Member
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trpthrld Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: Mute for flugelhorn |
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maynard-46 wrote: | Quote: | Have you contacted them and asked? |
No as I'm not interested in purchasing one. I took a look at the current site and noticed that, compared to their old site, it seems much less informative.
Butch |
So...no actual personal knowledge or experience with the product? And your opinion is based purely on the barebones website.
No consideration that this might be a very small (it is) and possibly family-run operation (it is) with only a few offered products (also true) and perhaps the limited information on their website suffices for others (kinda obvious) and that the expense of creating and maintaining a more flashy website more to your liking might possibly cause an unnecessary increase in product prices (can't say for sure but I'd bet there are some true facts in that last sentence segment).
Thank you for your considered and muchly informed opinion on the EZ Bucket products. _________________ Tim Wendt
www.trumpetherald.com/marketplace.php?task=detail&id=146827&s=The-Best-Trumpet-Lead-Pipe-Swab-EVER--
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't read maynard's comment as criticism, but as pointing out that the size information that was on a previous version of the website is no longer available and that the information is really helpful in deciding what will work with one's horn. |
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trpthrld Heavyweight Member
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Riojazz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Butch.
Tim, I just wrote to them to ask about my Kanstul 1525 flugel, since they offer one flugelhorn Eazy Bucket mute and do not specify the size.
I bought an Eazy Bucket mute for my trumpet before the holidays last year, and I love it. It truly is fast to put on and take off, the intonation surprisingly does not suffer, and it allows me to play with a group of woodwind players. I do see the Size pull-down for trumpet, and if I recall correctly, that was not there with exact diameter info before; it said something like 'normal' and 'large' or some such. But now, it's very clear for trumpet.
I do hope they can make one to fit the Kanstul 1525 flugel. The bell diameter is 6 1/2", and the copper bell means it can dent if you look at it wrong, so I don't want a mute with clips too small that would stress it. _________________ Matt Finley https://mattfinley.bandcamp.com/releases
Kanstul 1525 flugel with French taper, Shires Bb Destino Med & C trumpets, Schilke XA1 cornet, Schagerl rotary, Schilke P5-4 picc, Yamaha soprano sax, Powell flute. Sanborn GR66MS & Touvron-D. |
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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trpthrld wrote: | LittleRusty wrote: | I didn't read maynard's comment as criticism, but as pointing out that the size information that was on a previous version of the website is no longer available and that the information is really helpful in deciding what will work with one's horn. |
It's there.
As far as I know, it always has been.
"Select size" - can't be much more plain.
https://www.theeazybucket.com/new-products/r5vvwc5i13g5wer7uzvaanvqzwdd56
Same with contact, in case you didn't see what you wanted to see or find out information that may or may not be on the web site.
https://www.theeazybucket.com/contact-us
The "bare bones" nature of the web site, IMO, makes it much more easy to navigate than many others that have bunches of bells & whistles. |
I actually like the website. It is indeed easy to read and navigate.
That said, the flugelhorn mute does not have a size. Perhaps since the OP was specifically inquiring about the flugelhorn mute he didn't see other mutes had the size?
https://www.theeazybucket.com/new-products-3/flugelhorn-mute
Peace, not my place to get involved between you guys. |
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trpthrld Heavyweight Member
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Riojazz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Good news! Yes, they will make one in the size I need, and I'm ordering. Just write to them using the Contact on their website. _________________ Matt Finley https://mattfinley.bandcamp.com/releases
Kanstul 1525 flugel with French taper, Shires Bb Destino Med & C trumpets, Schilke XA1 cornet, Schagerl rotary, Schilke P5-4 picc, Yamaha soprano sax, Powell flute. Sanborn GR66MS & Touvron-D. |
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maynard-46 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:31 am Post subject: mute for flugelhorn |
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TIM WENDT
Quote: | So...no actual personal knowledge or experience with the product? And your opinion is based purely on the barebones website. |
Quote: | Thank you for your considered and muchly informed opinion on the EZ Bucket products. |
Not sure if ur having a bad day or what but I don't know why ur getting ur panties in a wad over my simple, no criticism-intended post. I just stated what I observed regarding their new site vs. the old one. If I missed the "plain as day drop down box" I apologize...shoot me for it.
As for "no experience with the company"? Yes...I do actually. I purchased 2 different sized bucket mutes to accommodate different bell sizes on my horns. Dealing with the owner was a very pleasurable experience and he was VERY helpful in pointing me in the correct direction as which to purchase.
With ur condescending posts that were obviously aimed at me for some reason just magnifies the ONE thing that, IMO, taints forums like TH. Some people, such as you, seem to lie in wait just to take ur anger out on someone for posting their opinion on a current topic. It's to bad that certain people spoil this experience foe others as I really enjoy reading different topics on here and interacting with mostly nice people. Yes...I know who you are and, personally, I could care less. Once someone thinks they're better than someone else and starts to throw their weight around trying to bully/intimidate people then enough is enough.
So move on and pick on someone else today...you hear?
Butch _________________ TRUMPE: YAMAHA Lacq. "Shew Gen II" / Legends .585 "CatMaster" Top / KT "TKO" BB / Reeves #5.75 Sleeve.
FLUGELHORN: ADAMS Custom "F1" / Legends .585 "CatMaster FL. |
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Riojazz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:28 am Post subject: |
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I'm guessing they will consider adding a pull-down for flugelhorn bell size (even if it has only Huge and Normal), or even better, do it as they improved the pull-down info for specific trumpet bell sizes.
I concur they are great to work with, and they responded immediately.
It's a great product and I hope others will benefit from this discussion. _________________ Matt Finley https://mattfinley.bandcamp.com/releases
Kanstul 1525 flugel with French taper, Shires Bb Destino Med & C trumpets, Schilke XA1 cornet, Schagerl rotary, Schilke P5-4 picc, Yamaha soprano sax, Powell flute. Sanborn GR66MS & Touvron-D. |
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trpthrld Heavyweight Member
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Riojazz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:54 am Post subject: |
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You're welcome, Tim, but it was your idea!
I know the one person and he's a good guy. His point was correct, that the website could be a bit better at providing info and if it were, I would have been able to order easier. I think you can safely let this one blow by. _________________ Matt Finley https://mattfinley.bandcamp.com/releases
Kanstul 1525 flugel with French taper, Shires Bb Destino Med & C trumpets, Schilke XA1 cornet, Schagerl rotary, Schilke P5-4 picc, Yamaha soprano sax, Powell flute. Sanborn GR66MS & Touvron-D. |
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improver Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Mute for flugelhorn kinda defeats the purpose doesnt it |
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