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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beedabee wrote:
... My end goal is to get my doctorate and become a college professor for trumpet.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbumcrot wrote:
Some great info here and all schools mentioned are reputable and great choices. I notice you have not mentioned the New York area, even though you are looking for viable music scenes and freelancing opportunities.

Montclair State University, in Montclair, NJ is well worth looking into. Brass faculty comes fromm the NY City Opera, NY Phil, Met, American Symphony, etc. We have students who have graduated and moved on to literally every major conservatory. Please investigate and give us a call.

I REALLY agree with "zaferis" about getting your MM at a different school!! I got my BM at SF State, then my MM at Manhattan School of Music.

Good luck!!


+1. Montclair State is a hidden gem. I am a Hartt alum and my stepson was a music major there (violin). The student orchestra was fantastic (trumpets always sounded great)! Montclair NJ is a great college town and you are about 40 min from Manhattan. The NY Metro area (including NJ, CT) has a lot going on gigwise and the networking ops are pretty unbeatable.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the answers, many are now worried about admission next year, due to a rather low GPA. I do a little research and it turns out that students this year did not spend too much time learning, but rather used https://edubirdie.com/research-paper-editing-service to get grades. A large number often tried to gain practical skills. The editing service helped me formalize my work, but here I wanted to find information about specific programs and their admission processes.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JayKosta wrote:
beedabee wrote:
... My end goal is to get my doctorate and become a college professor for trumpet.

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I just did a quick search for a job openings. Found some adjunct positions. Anybody know of any openings?

I ask because if it has the same odds as my becoming a NBA player, I would think there could be better ideas.

Back in the 70's when I was a music ed major, I switched majors. Why? Because I knew a guy who had been a part time assistant for ten years waiting for his chance to get that tenured spot. Reality was there just weren't that many jobs in a shrinking market.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Back in the 70's when I was a music ed major, I switched majors. Why? Because I knew a guy who had been a part time assistant for ten years waiting for his chance to get that tenured spot. Reality was there just weren't that many jobs in a shrinking market.

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That is a legitimate consideration.
For some PhD level tenured teaching positions, it is a matter of having to wait for someone to die (or retire) for an opening to appear.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JayKosta wrote:

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That is a legitimate consideration.
For some PhD level tenured teaching positions, it is a matter of having to wait for someone to die (or retire) for an opening to appear.


When I was in my undergraduate brass methods class the tuba instructor told us that we would make more as first year band directors than he did at a large state university. He had been in the President's Own, had coached an ensemble to a first place prize, former students playing professionally, etc. He was right.

I can go to the website of my alma mater and look up the salaries of every university employee. Except for the highest levels - department chairs, full professors, etc. - he's still right.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read an article published in the WSJ back in October about how the number of pro musician jobs (in classical music) was slashed in half by COVID. It seemed pretty tough before then.

I'm not entirely sure how schools pick a trumpet professor. I imagine there's quite a bit of politics involved.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

University of New Mexico should be top of your list. John Marchiando is great!
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