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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:12 am    Post subject: Great Flugelhorn solo Reply with quote

Hi all,
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C8uoY9e5YVY

This link is an excerpt from the film ‘Brassed off’ which is a fictional tale of the trials and tribulations of the Grimley Mining community. The film draws heavily on social upheaval of the British coal field communities in the wake of devastating pit closures during the 1980’s in the UK.
All the musical pieces in the film are played by the Grimethorpe Colliery Brass band.
This musical excerpt is Rodrigo’s Concerto De Aranjuez. The Flugelhorn solo is played by a fine cornet player by the name of Paul Hughes who was a member of the Grimrthorpe Brass band at that time and is now principal cornet with the ‘Beaumaris Brass band’
A great piece of work by Paul and his fellow band members.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris,
Thanks for the post. I've never heard of this film until now. (How have I missed it??) I also watched the William Tell Overture clip from the same film. I think that performance is even better.

Thanks to Netflix I should be watching the whole film soon.

Hank
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

an excellent drinking game for up to 4 players

assign instruments to each player:
(player 1) cornet + flugel
(player 2) trombone
(player 3) bass
(player 4) tenor horn + baton

watch brassed off, the greatest film of all time.

every time your instrument appears in shot, drink.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: Great Flugelhorn solo Reply with quote

Chris Brown wrote:
...The Flugelhorn solo is played by a fine cornet player by the name of Paul Hughes who was a member of the Grimrthorpe Brass band at that time and is now principal cornet with the ‘Beaumaris Brass band’
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Wow, Paul is SMOKIN' HOT.

Seriously, that's a cool looking flug. Is it a British horn?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good stuff, but why did they have the actress use a flugelhorn for what's clearly a cornet solo?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree it would sound great on a flugel, but my ears tell me the guy playing the track for the movie was using a cornet. Just seemed odd to me that they wouldn't change either the dialogue or the instrument to match what's actually being heard.

Maybe there's something to the story that demanded it. Could be like the famous 'bugle' solo Montgomery Clift played in 'From Here to Eternity,' which was actually played on a trumpet dubbed in. I think Harry James played it, but I haven't found verification.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The piece is really hard to find and expensive when you do. There's a publisher in the Netherlands that has it for flugel and brass band for around $160 USD.

http://www.musicprint.nl/nl/index.php?page=item&id=33493

Another solution for anyone that wants to play it a-cappella is simply transcribe it straight to your horn. Besides the movie version, there's a good performance by Rex Richardson on YouTube.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the solo was played on a flugel - i think youtube may be distorting it somewhat.

the arrangement used is actually illegal because the Rodrigo estate objected to the piece being rearranged, so is not available at any price (although many brass bands in the UK have access to photocopies).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: Great Flugelhorn solo Reply with quote

Chris Brown wrote:
. The Flugelhorn solo is played by a fine cornet player by the name of Paul Hughes who was a member of the Grimrthorpe Brass band at that time and is now principal cornet with the ‘Beaumaris Brass band’
A great piece of work by Paul and his fellow band members.

Chris Brown.


Gee, you mean that really wasn't Tara playing that?

Brassed Off is a nice watch and listen, if you haven't seen it. They run it on Starz and I think the Sundance channel.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this really true?

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the arrangement used is actually illegal because the Rodrigo estate objected to the piece being rearranged, so is not available at any price (although many brass bands in the UK have access to photocopies).


The piece has been recorded by Jens Lindemann (Rising Sun) and the London Trumpet Sound (Vol 1). I heard Allen Vizzutti play it with piano at a recent recital and Alison Balsom performed it about two weeks ago on A Prairie Home Companion.

I found that arrangements of the piece for instruments besides the guitar are hard to come by. I was simply going to transcribe the guitar part. I was planning on playing it at a recital this summer - (My wife loves it!)

Given the relative high profile of this piece in the brass world, the Rodrigo estate must not be too happy.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Great Flugelhorn solo Reply with quote

Chris Brown wrote:
Hi all,
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C8uoY9e5YVY

This link is an excerpt from the film ‘Brassed off’ which is a fictional tale of the trials and tribulations of the Grimley Mining community.
This musical excerpt is Rodrigo’s Concerto De Aranjuez. The Flugelhorn solo is played by a fine cornet player by the name of Paul Hughes who was a member of the Grimrthorpe Brass band at that time and is now principal cornet with the ‘Beaumaris Brass band’
A great piece of work by Paul and his fellow band members.

Chris Brown.


And I thought it was done by Gloria Stitts..
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there isn't a brass quintet arrangement for this piece, somebody should one (none at hickey's or jwpepper).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a version of "Concierto de Aranjuez" called "Aranjuez, Mon Amour," available for $1.95 from http://www.sheetmusicdirect.us/i18n/index.jsp

Use of SheetMusicDirect requires installation of Sibelius Scorch. It's free and the site helps you through the install. When you get ready to print, be sure to hit the icon above the music and not your usual printing protocol.

The song is a fake book version, inluding chord changes, in the Key of C. By listening carefully to the various recordings of "Concierto de Aranjuez" it would be easy to work up a very close, if not transcription accurate, rendition to play.

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone knows what kind of flugel is the one that the actress play? I've never seen something of this kind.
If somebody knows...
Thanks in advance.

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to this thread its a Hawkes and Son flugelhorn.

See also: https://archon.library.illinois.edu/?p=digitallibrary/digitalcontent&id=9133
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love this young player version.


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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fun to play along with this video & transcription version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQ5WqpBzdY
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 9:13 pm    Post subject: Great Flugelhorn solo Reply with quote

Along with my interest in music when I was much younger I played and coached college football. I have that soundtrack from the movie and as coaches we would say that the music, "kicks ass and takes telephone numbers." Not much more to say than it is just fantastic.
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